Irish Border post Brexit

Discussion in 'Brexit & Politics' started by essexpete, Sep 21, 2018.

  1. It's really not worth trying to argue or reason with this Devil guy. He's shown his complete ignorance of the situation here, and I don't know where he gets his information from, but he forgets that it is normally tilted by the writer and their particular slant added.
    He obviously enjoys winding people up, I have started to ignore his posts, and if everyone does he will soon tire and look elsewhere for his thrills.
     
  2. jendan

    jendan Member

    Unfortunately,his views are what most of the rest of the World see of Northern Ireland in context to the rest of the UK,and a great many English as well.
     
  3. Farm buy

    Farm buy Member

    Hi
    What happened in 49
     
  4. Devil_0101

    Devil_0101 Member

    Ok pals,

    what is the "british" view about NI? The I.R.A. was a videogame, the army was in there to pick flowers, and the NI does not speak irish but engl? Camon tell me what has happened in NI in the past 30 years since you know everything. Regards.
     
  5. Devil_0101

    Devil_0101 Member

    You, and not only, should read better, never i have said the troubles ended, actually i'm saying the troubles will restart with the brexit, where did you read i have said that. Facts is NI does not want to leave UE but UK and the conflicts proved it, the vote still proves they do not want to stay in UK because probably they have better deals with EU and Ireland, remember they have been invaded and "someone" wants it back. Regards.
     
  6. The Agrarian

    The Agrarian Member

    Location:
    Co Antrim
    Where it is you said you are from again devil?
     
  7. Henarar

    Henarar Member

    Location:
    ZumerZet Somerset
    how do you know this ?
    what vote ?
     
  8. In 1949, the then Irish Free State (26 counties) under the terms of Republic of Ireland Act 1948 declared itself a Republic, ending its a rather tenuous membership of the Commonwealth and removing the role of the King as head of the Irish Free State, thus making the Irish President the unambiguous head of state, While still retaining the name Ireland/Eire.

    The proposal to rename Northern Ireland as Ulster and thus making the formal title of the United Kingdom of Great Britain and Ulster. Partly as a means of further differentiating here from the rest of the island.

    It was expected that the UK's own Ireland Act 1949 would contain the formal measures for a name change, in the end the Act did not contain anything to do with a name change.
    The Act however did contain provisions that partition would continue (thus the existence of Northern Ireland) as long as the Government of Northern Ireland wished it to.
     
  9. Devil_0101

    Devil_0101 Member

  10. yin ewe

    yin ewe Member

    Location:
    Co Antrim
    Firstly the document has a great big European Parliament sign at the top, so it's bound to be impartial then.:rolleyes:

    Then I got to the second line where it mentioned 'hard border' and that was far enough. Only people talking about a hard border are EU and remainers, who are trying to scare the UK into staying in the EU.
     
  11. From your own document Devil
    The Agreement assumes continuing EU membership for both the UK and Ireland but binds neither explicitly to maintaining that membership. The 2016 Belfast High Court case outlined in Section 1 ruled that there was nothing in the Good Friday Agreement to prevent the triggering of Article 50.
    583 116
    That High Court in Belfast declared in October 2016 that it would be an over-statement to suggest that EU membership was a constitutional bulwark central to the Good Friday Agreement, which would be breached by notification of Article 50. This, the Court asserted, would be to ‘elevate ... [EU membership] over and beyond its true contextual position’.16 In its January 2017 verdict, the UK Supreme Court upheld the Belfast High Court position: the principle of consent for constitutional change contained in the Good Friday Agreement referred to whether Northern Ireland remained in the UK or unified with the rest of Ireland. It did not refer to EU membership or withdrawal.
     
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  12. zsnotdead

    zsnotdead Member

    Ni voted 56 to 44 to remain
     
  13. Devil_0101

    Devil_0101 Member

    If you don't get it, the "good friday agreement" costs money, and both the UK and the EU are paying for it. After brexit what makes you believe the EU will continue to pay money to keep peace in NI? The UK will have to pay more money or eventually drop the land because it wont be convenient anymore.

    This is the typical british policy, invade a land and tax them as much you can. The NI is under a dictatorship of taxes. The USA had their independent war because of the taxes the UK was imposing the them. It is called colonialism, and when you see the money you get are less then the money you give you drop the place like you did many times already.

    "The Agreement assumes continuing EU membership for both the UK and Ireland but binds neither explicitly to maintaining that membership."

    Are you in the EU and in their membership now? There is no agreement that says the EU has to pay especially when the UK wont be a member anymore.

    "That High Court in Belfast declared in October 2016 that it would be an over-statement to suggest that EU membership was a constitutional bulwark central to the Good Friday Agreement, which would be breached by notification of Article 50."

    This means that the article 50 is not directly linked to the "good friday agreement", therefor the brexit under a certain point might be "illegal" according to the agreement itself, therefor the agreement might end as not supported by the EU anymore. Regards.
     
  14. Wellytrack

    Wellytrack Member

    Oh my. Someone is trying too hard. :ROFLMAO::ROFLMAO::ROFLMAO:

    Accusations of Colonialism from a European when pretty much all Western European’s had an Empire at some such time.

    Nothing like facts to ruin a story, American taxation was a fraction of what English taxation was, the issue was taxation without representation. The Colonists would not have gained Independence from the Crown if it where not for the fact that they were rather busy at the time what with all of Europe ablaze due to Bonaparte.

    But hey. That’s boring. :LOL:
     
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  15. baabaa

    baabaa Member

    Location:
    co Antrim
    quite a lot of the peace money actually goes south of the border surprise surprise,
    you wouldnt actually be a recipient?
    the south of ireland has just in the last few years started to make a net contribution to the eurocrats budget,
    this is shortly projected to rise to 3 billion annually of your tax
    enjoy your EU colonisation
    regards:D
     
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  16. Devil_0101

    Devil_0101 Member

    I reported some documents and official fonts, you are just britties whiners and the joke of the world with your brexit drama. I can see it in here too. Regards.
     
  17. Henarar

    Henarar Member

    Location:
    ZumerZet Somerset
    What was the question
     
  18. zsnotdead

    zsnotdead Member

    It was a statement from tff European brexit correspondent.... ni wants to remain in the eu. I gave the results here in ni
     
  19. Devil_0101

    Devil_0101 Member

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