Irish Border post Brexit

Discussion in 'Brexit & Politics' started by essexpete, Sep 21, 2018.

  1. The Agrarian

    The Agrarian Member

    Location:
    Co Antrim
    Ok. We get it now.

    Please can we stay? We are really sorry for wanting to do our own thing. We promise never to try anything like that again, and henceforth pledge allegiance to the communist people's republic of Europe.
     
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  2. Devil_0101

    Devil_0101 Member

    Only if you know how to cook :)
     
  3. turbo

    turbo Member

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    lincs
    So we are paying twice then as the eu doesn’t actually have any money only what it gets off the few net contributors
     
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  4. The Agrarian

    The Agrarian Member

    Location:
    Co Antrim
    I know. It's hilarious. We pay the EU to pay us. :scratchhead:. Good idea.
     
  5. Devil_0101

    Devil_0101 Member

    I'm trying to figure out what is the problem here, because i have reported a document that clearly says the EU is contributing with money to keep the peace in NI. This is because the NI as member of the UK has been in the EU for decades. What do you find hard to get? Regards.
     
  6. Dave79

    Dave79 Member

    Location:
    N Antrim
    I’d just leave it guys. He doesn’t realise he’s been fed a load of propaganda, and swallowed it whole! He knows the history of ni better than a load of us who have lived here all our lives, through the troubles and all. Anyone reading his posts can see the animosity towards the uk and can see what he says is completely one sided. Being a devils advocate is one thing, being a troll is something quite different!
     
  7. jendan

    jendan Member

    Well i for one find his posts very interesting.I have never studied the history of Ireland,nor have i been across the water yet,i hope to one day.But its all a bit of a mystery to me.All i hear is the bitterness and divide,but surely its better than before the Good Friday agreement?
     
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  8. Devil_0101

    Devil_0101 Member

    Me fed with propaganda? I was not living there i guess you were fed with propaganda. So what is your history since you know everything. Regards.
     
  9. Cowcorn

    Cowcorn Member

    As you are considering resuming Dairy farming its essential that you visit us to update your knowledge. Moorepark for grass based profitable seasonal the production in a reasonable dry early climate, Ballyhaise for the same on later heavier wetter ground.And finally Greenhills for the high input high output model. Then you can sign up with Teagasc for proper impartial advice and research what are you waiting for ???
     
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  10. Please don't take what the Devil says, or quotes as the true reflection of NI., Ulster, or The North of Ireland as some call it.
    We have our fair share of Biggots and Idiots, just as any other country in the world does, if you look for them.
    Most people here just want to get on with their neighbours and make a living for them and their families. I am Protestant, and my mate and work colleague is Catholic . we have worked all over the country, and never been asked our religion, most people are more interested in a good job at the right money. I was at school with a mix of religions, our area is mixed, and neighbours help each other. If you go into the cities where the paramilitaries of both sides carve up the turf between them, you will find trouble if you want to look for it. This Devil boy is not painting a picture of the country I know and have lived in for almost 70 years, he is choosing to give a very slanted view to suit himself, or his own agenda. What a lot of these people don't seem to realize is that 6x2 will hold us all eventually, what you believe happens after that is up to you.
     
  11. Dave79

    Dave79 Member

    Location:
    N Antrim
    Jendan, I found them interesting at the start, but like in the vegan debate, where you tell people things, but they don’t consider them, it isn’t a debate but rather just propaganda. I grew up in the troubles, but thankfully, in a less active part of the province, with a fairly unsectarian upbringing, so I like to think I have both eyes open. Both sides have unsavoury skeletons in the closet, but while the paramilitaries are still about, they’re more gangs than anything else now. There is no appetite for a border from anyone on the island, and hopefully no need for one. I have been watching a series on the bbc ‘pop goes northern ireland’. It’s a pretty horrific watch at times, seeing news footage after some of the worst atrocities, but I would hope that my countrymen would never plumb those depths again! Though I am a glass half full person by instinct!
     
  12. Devil_0101

    Devil_0101 Member

    The funny thing, is that i have quoted historians from your own country too. Yet i haven't heard a word from you but avoiding the talk. You know what i have said is true but you cannot handle the truth and you prefer to avoid it.

    The problem in there is not catholics and protestants, the problem is that many british because of the UK migrated in NI and they did not get along with the irish who used to live in NI and the british were economically supported by the UK to "colonize" the NI, this is what really happened. It is not catholics vs protestants, it is native irish vs british immigrants. Regards.
     
  13. Henarar

    Henarar Member

    Location:
    ZumerZet Somerset
    on the voting slip
     
  14. Joe

    Joe Member

    Location:
    Carlow Ireland
    This is just bollix tbh, history important yes, modern relevant only to be consinded to history and a reminder of messed up society used to be. This is sort of rubbish SF & DUP mouth that drives the real people north/south crackers, a reason SF following has hit a wall in south & will not increase in near future.

    Similarly that article about Southern Ireland never being Britain’s friend is just clap trap. Do you realize how many relations, friends and work colleagues vast majority of people in Southern Ireland have from the UK. A lot of us have lived there, studied there or regularly visit the UK. While we might have a good understanding of our two history’s and joke about it, we have a massive amount of respect for modern Britain & if guilty of anything is maybe not overtly saying it. To say we re not friends & not rely on us is massively disingenuous.
     
  15. The Agrarian

    The Agrarian Member

    Location:
    Co Antrim
    I think it's a reasonable deal. Stick a five year time limit on the NI backstop, and she can have my vote. The EU wasn't going to let her off with a better deal, let's be honest with ourselves about that.
     
  16. Wellytrack

    Wellytrack Member


    The UFU backed the deal, which was interesting considering a large make up of their members would be DUP and UUP leaning voters.
     
  17. Boohoo

    Boohoo Member

    Location:
    Newtownabbey
    There are rumours of changes to the backstop coming from Germany and The Netherlands, but Dublin won't want to give an inch. Although the DUP are saying that the backstop has to go, I think a legally binding time limit would be enough to get their votes.
     
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  18. Devil_0101

    Devil_0101 Member

    The people yes, but not the govern who don't usually do the interest of the people. The govern made a war there is not much to argue about it.
     

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