Irish slaughter houses shutting

[yin ewe]

Desperate people resort to desperate measures. I havent any sympathy for the lorry driver tbh and the guy filming is a numpty. Ports should be blockaded and beef thrown in the sea. Where does larry live?

The protestor opening the door and climbing up on the step was out of order IMO. If a vegan protestor had done that there would be outrage on here.

You've hit the nail on the head, farmers need to dump beef if they want to make the processors take notice. No point standing at the gate of the plant when you're cattle are standing in the field ready to go to the same plant when the protest ends.

 

[Agrivator]

Just out of interest:

What proportion of Irish Beef comes from feed lots?

What proportion of Irish Beef comes from beef cattle summered on lush, green, shamrock-rich pastures?

The latter is the assumption of the English consumer. Perhaps they are not being given the true facts.

 

[kiwi pom]

Desperate people resort to desperate measures. I havent any sympathy for the lorry driver tbh and the guy filming is a numpty. Ports should be blockaded and beef thrown in the sea. Where does larry live?

The guy in the truck was just doing his job and considering he could have done a lot of damage to the children climbing on the truck, I think he showed a lot of restraint.
The guy with the camera at least had some sense.

 

[Werzle]

Intresting facts about our ole pal larry who cant afford to dribble us abit more money, he's one of irelands biggest landlords and during the iraq war it turned out the iraqi's owed him hundreds of millions in unpaid meat debts. The irish government was recalled from there holidays and made sure larry didnt go without!

 

[Full of bull(s)]

Intresting facts about our ole pal larry who cant afford to dribble us abit more money, he's one of irelands biggest landlords and during the iraq war it turned out the iraqi's owed him hundreds of millions in unpaid meat debts. The irish government was recalled from there holidays and made sure larry didnt go without!

From my understanding they propped him up during BSE too. They bought it off him, effectively nationalised it, wrote off all the debt and sold it back to him for a pound a year or two later. He owed the Irish banks so much if he had gone bust it would have about taken Ireland with him, bank wise combined with the number he employs. As a privately owned company, like all the big Irish meat firms continue to be these things don’t reach the public eye, like their profits.

 

[Werzle]

Starting to think larry owns ireland

 

[ollie989898]

If this was France the roads would be blockaded by tyres, tractors and dung. Lorries would be on fire and beef chucked in the river.

 

[Henarar]

If this was France the roads would be blockaded by tyres, tractors and dung. Lorries would be on fire and beef chucked in the river.

and if it was Britain we would be doing nothing except on TFF having a moan
Ah we have got a sh1t beef price in Britain and we are on TFF having a moan

 

[Werzle]

Irish beef coming over here for processing now due to the plants being mothballed in ireland due to protest and the firms refusal to pay a fair price, there not ruling out sending beef from the eu to be processed either to make up the shortfall rather than pay a fair price. This should be seen as an act of war imo. Has this been the plan all along?

 

[Full of bull(s)]

Irish beef coming over here for processing now due to the plants being mothballed in ireland due to protest and the firms refusal to pay a fair price, there not ruling out sending beef from the eu to be processed either to make up the shortfall rather than pay a fair price. This should be seen as an act of war imo. Has this been the plan all along?

I wonder how much these firms will deduct themselves on their own feedlot cattle they can’t get killed that go overweight/overage [emoji848]

 

[Werzle]

I wonder how much these firms will deduct themselves on their own feedlot cattle they can’t get killed that go overweight/overage [emoji848]

Theres probably a tax dodge built in somewhere

 

[kiwi pom]

Irish beef coming over here for processing now due to the plants being mothballed in ireland due to protest and the firms refusal to pay a fair price, there not ruling out sending beef from the eu to be processed either to make up the shortfall rather than pay a fair price. This should be seen as an act of war imo. Has this been the plan all along?

Just curious, what's a 'fair price'?
I don't see how you can make someone buy your product unless you had some kind of contract drawn up. Is this what's happening are they going back on contracts?

 

[livestock 1]

Just curious, what's a 'fair price'?
I don't see how you can make someone buy your product unless you had some kind of contract drawn up. Is this what's happening are they going back on contracts?

There are many different views on what a ‘fair price’ actually is. One thing certain is that if prices stay where they are many will either loose interest or not be able to produce it.

 

[Werzle]

Just curious, what's a 'fair price'?
I don't see how you can make someone buy your product unless you had some kind of contract drawn up. Is this what's happening are they going back on contracts?

Contracts are not the answer, they only lead to massive units and factory farming. Everybody in the chain needs a share of the profits. We are in uncertain times we no that but the overiding feeling is brexit is being played on to source cheap beef in an act of pure greed. If beef hovered between a base price of 345-365ppk we could live with it and understand the circumstances. Its just pure greed thats driving awful prices , nothing else. We should be lobbying our ag minister and stopping boris on his walkabouts to point out the shady actions of larry and Co taking advantage of these difficult times . Wheres the public outrage towards larry for laying off staff to try and prove a point?!

 

[Henarar]

Just curious, what's a 'fair price'?
I don't see how you can make someone buy your product unless you had some kind of contract drawn up. Is this what's happening are they going back on contracts?

A fair price is one that is fair, when things are out in the open and there is no underhand dealings like selling eastern EU beef as Irish or British, fair is when imported beef is subject to the same regulation as our own or it is written on the package in the supermarket or on the menu in the restaurant in big letters that anyone can see at a glance that it is imported or it is not up to our standard that's what bloody fair is, not very likely to bloody well happen with all the big knob big money players in the game though is it but that's what fecking fair is

 

[kiwi pom]

A fair price is one that is fair, when things are out in the open and there is no underhand dealings like selling eastern EU beef as Irish or British, fair is when imported beef is subject to the same regulation as our own or it is written on the package in the supermarket or on the menu in the restaurant in big letters that anyone can see at a glance that it is imported or it is not up to our standard that's what bloody fair is, not very likely to bloody well happen with all the big knob big money players in the game though is it but that's what fecking fair is

Even if you had all those things farmers would still undercut each other to get a bigger slice of the pie and some farmers would be willing to take a bigger financial risk than others in order to expand or own more of the supply chain. Its just business. It happens in every industry.
Its not compulsory to be in it if your not making money.

 

[Henarar]

Even if you had all those things farmers would still undercut each other to get a bigger slice of the pie and some farmers would be willing to take a bigger financial risk than others in order to expand or own more of the supply chain. Its just business. It happens in every industry.
Its not compulsory to be in it if your not making money.

All open and easy to see and I don't care

 

[unlacedgecko]

The guy in the truck was just doing his job and considering he could have done a lot of damage to the children climbing on the truck, I think he showed a lot of restraint.
The guy with the camera at least had some sense.

Id be very very unhappy with unknown persons trying to climb into my lorry and attack me.

Absolutely shameful that these protestors are being worse behaved that the vegans.

Off the back of this footage, I f i had to drive into an Irish beef plant for work, I wouldn't be stopping the lorry.

 

[yin ewe]

Even if you had all those things farmers would still undercut each other to get a bigger slice of the pie and some farmers would be willing to take a bigger financial risk than others in order to expand or own more of the supply chain. Its just business. It happens in every industry.
Its not compulsory to be in it if your not making money.

A farmer's worst enemy is another farmer. If they think there you're making a pound more then thy have to be at it as well, then eventually no-one makes any money.
All the plants have to do is sit tight, the beef is still there, in fact ironically, the longer farmers hold it the more of it there will be. Dump beef or shoot cattle on farm and send on the dead lorry. Drastic steps I know, but would make beef properly scarce.

 

[ollie989898]

I think a lot of folk would be interested in a contract that said present X number of cattle for slaughter in December 2020 and the price will be £X.XX per kilo. The uncertainty of agriculture is half the problem.