Is a cow leaking milk at the slaughterhouse a welfare issue ?

westwards

Member
A local haulier who takes our cast cows to Highland Meats in Ayrshire is getting untold grief from a foreign vet who is telling him it is a serious welfare issue cows leaking milk.
The cows are picked up from us between 9 and 11 on a sunday morning and after he has picked up the rest of his load he gets to Highland Meats late afternoon or early evening.
Our nearest market is 4/5 hours away in a lorry and they would wait overnight to be sold next day so I can't see what the problem is with this vet . Anyone else having problems like this ?
 
Location
East Mids
Better not tell him about our TB reactors that were milked at 7.30 am one day, hanging around getting stressed as their mates were all out at grass, until 2pm (2 hours late picked up) and then transported 5 and a half hours to South Wales and not slaughtered until the next morning.

I would be interested in what the vet's suggestion is in your case, which seems to be you are doing the best you can to alleviate an even bigger welfare issue.
 

coomoo

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Livestock Farmer
Location
Scotland
A local haulier who takes our cast cows to Highland Meats in Ayrshire is getting untold grief from a foreign vet who is telling him it is a serious welfare issue cows leaking milk.
The cows are picked up from us between 9 and 11 on a sunday morning and after he has picked up the rest of his load he gets to Highland Meats late afternoon or early evening.
Our nearest market is 4/5 hours away in a lorry and they would wait overnight to be sold next day so I can't see what the problem is with this vet . Anyone else having problems like this ?
They’ll be Monday kill, vets right
 

Werzle

Member
Location
Midlands
A local haulier who takes our cast cows to Highland Meats in Ayrshire is getting untold grief from a foreign vet who is telling him it is a serious welfare issue cows leaking milk.
The cows are picked up from us between 9 and 11 on a sunday morning and after he has picked up the rest of his load he gets to Highland Meats late afternoon or early evening.
Our nearest market is 4/5 hours away in a lorry and they would wait overnight to be sold next day so I can't see what the problem is with this vet . Anyone else having problems like this ?
At one time they were warning farmers not to send cows to red markets stanked with milk. Why you culling cows still giving plenty?
 

Sharpy

Member
Livestock Farmer
A local haulier who takes our cast cows to Highland Meats in Ayrshire is getting untold grief from a foreign vet who is telling him it is a serious welfare issue cows leaking milk.
The cows are picked up from us between 9 and 11 on a sunday morning and after he has picked up the rest of his load he gets to Highland Meats late afternoon or early evening.
Our nearest market is 4/5 hours away in a lorry and they would wait overnight to be sold next day so I can't see what the problem is with this vet . Anyone else having problems like this ?
Get them picked up at a time that means they don't go 24hrs without being milked! Or go and milk them at the slaughterhouse. Your have made the problem, deal with it.
 

gofer

New Member
A local haulier who takes our cast cows to Highland Meats in Ayrshire is getting untold grief from a foreign vet who is telling him it is a serious welfare issue cows leaking milk.
The cows are picked up from us between 9 and 11 on a sunday morning and after he has picked up the rest of his load he gets to Highland Meats late afternoon or early evening.
Our nearest market is 4/5 hours away in a lorry and they would wait overnight to be sold next day so I can't see what the problem is with this vet . Anyone else having problems like this ?
We dry everything off a few weeks before they are due to go. Saves any bother and often gets a better grade as well.
 

westwards

Member
Get them picked up at a time that means they don't go 24hrs without being milked! Or go and milk them at the slaughterhouse. Your have made the problem, deal with it.
So tell me why I can send cows at the same time to Hendrie bros and they stand there all night in a shed, get picked up in the morning on a lorry that has brought cattle up from England to Ayr slaughterhouse and they go down to Telford and are not milked and probably not killed till the next morning and we never here a peep ? @Sharpy
 

cull cows

Member
So tell me why I can send cows at the same time to Hendrie bros and they stand there all night in a shed, get picked up in the morning on a lorry that has brought cattle up from England to Ayr slaughterhouse and they go down to Telford and are not milked and probably not killed till the next morning and we never here a peep ? @Sharpy
Different abattoir different vets opinions
 

Mc115reed

Member
Livestock Farmer
So tell me why I can send cows at the same time to Hendrie bros and they stand there all night in a shed, get picked up in the morning on a lorry that has brought cattle up from England to Ayr slaughterhouse and they go down to Telford and are not milked and probably not killed till the next morning and we never here a peep ? @Sharpy
Does it really matter who’s doing what? Either way it is no cow should be standing in a f**king slaughterhouse with a bag bursting with milk waiting to be slaughtered, just because it’s easier for you! Ffs and it’s any wonder that the vegans give us so much grief! Do better people it’s not difficult
 
Location
Cornwall
Complete cartel down here with cull cows, especially as I'm out of RT. My girls have done their bit for me , so when they do go, I want them taken somewhere local and treated right , not hawked all over the country

Exactly this they have worked hard for us the least we can do make the ending as good as it can be. All ours go directly to slaughter now have sold some at market but looked on bcms a few days later and cow was taken miles.Put me off.
 

Spear

Member
Livestock Farmer
Location
North Devon
Get them picked up at a time that means they don't go 24hrs without being milked! Or go and milk them at the slaughterhouse. Your have made the problem, deal with it.
Spoken like a twit
Guessing you’re not a dairy farmer.
If a haulier or slaughterhouse choose to overnight stock then it’s their responsibility to care for the animals needs.
Slaughtering starts early hours so many need stock in by 3-4 am
 

JP1

Member
Livestock Farmer
Spoken like a twit
Guessing you’re not a dairy farmer.
If a haulier or slaughterhouse choose to overnight stock then it’s their responsibility to care for the animals needs.
Slaughtering starts early hours so many need stock in by 3-4 am
The OP must surely know they're not being killed until Monday if they're collected on Sunday. I wouldn't let them go knowing that . And the haulier may be liable also on welfare grounds but the decision starts with the consigning farmer
 

coomoo

Member
Livestock Farmer
Location
Scotland
Spoken like a twit
Guessing you’re not a dairy farmer.
If a haulier or slaughterhouse choose to overnight stock then it’s their responsibility to care for the animals needs.
Slaughtering starts early hours so many need stock in by 3-4 am
Not be many lines running kills on a Monday morning at 3am
 

Sharpy

Member
Livestock Farmer
Spoken like a twit
Guessing you’re not a dairy farmer.
If a haulier or slaughterhouse choose to overnight stock then it’s their responsibility to care for the animals needs.
Slaughtering starts early hours so many need stock in by 3-4 am
So send them after evening milking. Choose a haulier who will do as the customer requires. Incidentally the slaughterhouse in question accepts stock to kill that day up till at least 9am, I have delivered stock at that time that was killed 20 mins later.
Edit. The early killed cattle do not need to be dairy cows, that plant kills a lot of cattle.
 

frederick

Member
Location
south west
Spoken like a twit
Guessing you’re not a dairy farmer.
If a haulier or slaughterhouse choose to overnight stock then it’s their responsibility to care for the animals needs.
Slaughtering starts early hours so many need stock in by 3-4 am
If you have a milky cow it would be unacceptable for you to send it somewhere before afternoon milking knowing it won't be killed the following morning. If this is the case she should be picked up straight out the parlour in the afternoon.
 

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