Is a new referendum the likely outcome?

[arcobob]

A second referendum appears to be the favoured Labour choice and is gaining traction in the Tory party. My take on this in light of what has already happened likens it to betting on a two horse race where the government owns the horses and decides which two to run and is also the bookmaker who decides whether or not to pay out depending on who won. Totally farcical.

 

[Hindsight]

A second referendum appears to be the favoured Labour choice and is gaining traction in the Tory party. My take on this in light of what has already happened likens it to betting on a two horse race where the government owns the horses and decides which two to run and is also the bookmaker who decides whether or not to pay out depending on who won. Totally farcical.

From my following of 'the form', to continue your Gee Gee analogy - nice one. Presume it all depends on now until October - whether the new PM can hold out for No Deal or if Parliament can force and win a No Confidence Vote - in which case dare the Tories face down a no confidence vote and possible referendum option by calling a General Election. Gonna be fun to watch next few weeks.

 

[Still Farming]

 

[Ley253]

Parliament can do nothing to prevent no deal if the new PM does nothing. Without a new agreement to vote on, (mays trap is dead) mps are toothless. That being the case, Th EU will kick us out in Oct.

 

[Ley253]

It will be interesting to see how the man who really runs the country gets around this. By careful manipulation of motions that he allows mps to see, vote on etc, he has taken over government!

 

[Highland Mule]

Parliament can do nothing to prevent no deal if the new PM does nothing. Without a new agreement to vote on, (mays trap is dead) mps are toothless. That being the case, Th EU will kick us out in Oct.

Parliament can always do something. A vote of no confidence for one, followed by the formation of an alternate (minority) government without an election. If it’s needed, the opposition would find a way (and there would likely be a decent level of support from within all parties to do it)

 

[Widgetone]

From my following of 'the form', to continue your Gee Gee analogy - nice one. Presume it all depends on now until October - whether the new PM can hold out for No Deal or if Parliament can force and win a No Confidence Vote - in which case dare the Tories face down a no confidence vote and possible referendum option by calling a General Election. Gonna be fun to watch next few weeks.

Don't know how much of this 'excitement' I can take …..

 

[arcobob]

It will be interesting to see how the man who really runs the country gets around this. By careful manipulation of motions that he allows mps to see, vote on etc, he has taken over government!

You mean the Poison Dwarf

 

[Ley253]

Parliament can always do something. A vote of no confidence for one, followed by the formation of an alternate (minority) government without an election. If it’s needed, the opposition would find a way (and there would likely be a decent level of support from within all parties to do it)

A vote of no confidence has to be won first. then a general election , or leadership contest held. Then a new agreement arrived at. Dont think there is time!Then of course the PM could prorogue parliament.

 

[Highland Mule]

A vote of no confidence has to be won first. then a general election , or leadership contest held. Then a new agreement arrived at. Dont think there is time!Then of course the PM could prorogue parliament.

Agreed, it would not be certain to succeed, but there are options, and I’ve only described one of them. I was just refuting the oft-stated error that “Parliament can do nothing to prevent a no deal”.

 

[rob1]

Agreed, it would not be certain to succeed, but there are options, and I’ve only described one of them. I was just refuting the oft-stated error that “Parliament can do nothing to prevent a no deal”.

But would they dare to go against not only the government but also a democratic vote

 

[Jackov Altraids]

I know I've said it before but;

The reason for another referendum is that parliament can't make up it's mind.

The decision of what question is put in a second referendum will largely dictate the outcome.

If they can decide the question, they don't need the referendum.

[ But they want it to absolve themselves of all responsibilities.]

 

[Highland Mule]

But would they dare to go against not only the government but also a democratic vote

I presume you mean the referendum, which was anything but, and certainly didn’t have 52% of the voters in favour of a no deal exit. As for the government, it’s a pretty poor parliament that has to “dare” if the want to oppose the government - that’s their job!

 

[wanton dwarf]

I know I've said it before but;

The reason for another referendum is that parliament can't make up it's mind.

The decision of what question is put in a second referendum will largely dictate the outcome.

If they can decide the question, they don't need the referendum.

[ But they want it to absolve themselves of all responsibilities.]

Another referendum makes no sense what-so-ever .. all it proves is those in Westminster are unfit and unworthy to be in their jobs.

Why do we pay taxes for this cr@p ?

 

[Muck Spreader]

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Is this a pro or anti Brexit shirt, as you can interpret it both ways.

 

[Still Farming]

Is this a pro or anti Brexit shirt, as you can interpret it both ways.

Not to offend, that's why.

 

[rob1]

I presume you mean the referendum, which was anything but, and certainly didn’t have 52% of the voters in favour of a no deal exit. As for the government, it’s a pretty poor parliament that has to “dare” if the want to oppose the government - that’s their job!

Yet the referendum had the biggest number of votes ever cast IIRC, but hey I forgot your remainers only want democracy when it suits you, the government and the opposition were both voted in on manifestos that stated they would ensure the referendum was honoured and yet now it appears MP's who stood on that platform lied about their beliefs

 

[Derrick Hughes]

If they cant get no deal through I cant see any other option for the Conservatives

 

[Derrick Hughes]

I know I've said it before but;

The reason for another referendum is that parliament can't make up it's mind.

The decision of what question is put in a second referendum will largely dictate the outcome.

If they can decide the question, they don't need the referendum.

[ But they want it to absolve themselves of all responsibilities.]

It's nothing to do with making their mind up
The majority dont want it and will do anything to stop it

 

[Still Farming]

Mission to Leave and Leave it will be.