- Location
- Montgomeryshire
Is anyone in beef and sheep willing to invest money?
- Thread starter Yale
- Start date
- Location
- Fife
But there may well be a demand for roving herds/flocks of livestock to graze as part of arable rotations. #HaveQuadBikeWillTravel
harperfarmer
Member
If you don't keep investing a little then it'll come to it one day that everything needs changing/is no longer fit for purpose and you're faced with the question of do you invest significantly larger sums of money into new buildings/equipment or do you get out entirely. I'd rather keep investing as I go along. No official policies. Just if can afford to do it then do it, if I can't then wait until I can. Everyone's different.
- Location
- Montgomeryshire
There were a multitude of ‘flying shepherds’ in the Cotswolds in the 90’s. The movement restrictions due to F&M in 2001 about buggered them though, and most packed it in the following year.
I think it's 40% for unauthorised O/D's.
Hilly
Member
- Location
- Scottish Borders.
Not really , they are offering five year flexible low rate loans instead to counteract the extortionate rate on od40%!
That'll sort the wheat from the chaff.
glasshouse
Member
- Location
- lothians
The enviro schemes wont pay, and will devalue arable /grass to scrub
Land values will dropwhich will bust a few of them anyway
nails
Member
- Location
- East Dorset
You hit the nail on the head with that. Quite surprised at some of the talk on here of investment . No one round here i have spoken to can see much future in Sucklers at the moment and many have given up. If you can buy it , buy it , but i cannot see borrowing a lot of money now especially if you are older.If the subsidy goes , let,s be honest a lot will be f**ked.
- Location
- north Wales
I'm the opposite, I'll keep on bodging and repairing and making do as long as I can, and replace something when I absolutely have to!
Bossfarmer
Member
- Location
- between Perth and Inverness
your saying that landowners wont take up the ELMS payments? strange that because everyone i speak to is looking to do as much of these schemes as possible
glasshouse
Member
- Location
- lothians
They wont materialise
Boris and Gove of the forked tongue will renege.
Some landowners and bankers also realise that £7k arable will soon be £2k scrub if left to revert, so it wont be happening.
Plus the looming warming world food crisis will ensure the need for food, where actual production will be rewarded, not giving out dole to the least deserving
Boris and Gove of the forked tongue will renege.
Some landowners and bankers also realise that £7k arable will soon be £2k scrub if left to revert, so it wont be happening.
Plus the looming warming world food crisis will ensure the need for food, where actual production will be rewarded, not giving out dole to the least deserving
- Location
- somerset
there is an awful lot of odd bits of ground, that we work, but is really a waste, new hedges, fencing, cattle handling (not enviro, but handy) and lots of other 'bit', take all the oddes out, keep the best in agro, will all be better off, I expect.
Next week, I should have an idea, of the long term view of the bill, anything new, I will post !
Next week, I should have an idea, of the long term view of the bill, anything new, I will post !
- Location
- somerset
next week became today, obviously the environment features very heavily, and the whole job will revolve around that, as opposed to the dutch, german, French farmers, we are viewed as being inefficient, in the way we use fert spray etc, and there will be incentives, to improve that, as those countries use less than us, uncovered slurry lagoons, seen as polluting with methane, our use of fym and slurry could be much improved. Interestingly intensive farming is viewed as being more carbon friendly than mid stream farming, extensive or intensive grazing systems are friendly carbon wise, food security is high up the agender, with very regular updates, as we have heard, soil fertility and structure, is going to be very important going forward, with the emphasis on carbon and water absorption, obviously a lot more tree planting etc, but I was surprised to be told, the emphasis is to produce more food, from less land, by higher productivity, and technology, while the not so good land could be more trees ? All in all, there is a lot of practical sense in it, of course, what it ends up as, is a different thing. But, on the whole, quite reassuring, please don't ask where this info came from, as I really cannot say, but it is an ultra reliable source.
- Location
- Yorkshire
@ford4000 forgot to add your quote in. How will you pay for it when you finally decide it's time to replace if there's a slump. Will it be with money you've saved in good times and paid tax on while spending money on bodging your old stuff up to keep going. I'd personally rather spend abit in a good time save some tax have something reliable then when the bad time hits ride it out with little expenditure and no tax to pay. but each person has there own ideas
- Location
- somerset
was allways told that the farmers, who survived the 20/30's ag depression, were the ones who bodged everything up with string, didn't waste money on ditches, hedging etc, basically ultra dog and stick. grandad came here in 26, 100acres, by 1941 he was farming 900, and very well set up, till we get an idea, which way the wind blows, but a bit more surer, as above, it will be as cheap as we can do, and then, if oppurtunities come along, we should be well placed to make the most of them,
- Location
- Yorkshire
Yes maintain what you have now but if you've been doing that 10years already and have to do another 5 what state is stuff Gona be by then
- Location
- somerset
what state will be the machienery boys be in ? worse than us, but yes, some machienery needs to be kept uptogether, but how many implements are on farm, and used occaisionly, or are kept 'just in case' ?, could we share with a neighbour ? specialist contractor ? change systems ? We are about to enter a brand new system of agriculture, we have to alter our 'mind set', CAP will be gone, now is the time to look at how we run our farms, may well continue as before, but at least you have looked.
- Location
- Montgomeryshire
Well repaired?
- Location
- Yorkshire
Not if it's bodged up with string
- Location
- north Wales
Yes that's right. Just replaced the old Hilux we've had for 16 years for example , bought a 2 year old one instead. How much more would depreciation have cost if changing it every 5 years for example?
I'd rather have control of my own finances and decisions than have to depend on a bank