Are you sure the future of Britain hasn’t already been decided....... at the referendum??
Is anyone working for a deal ?
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Are you sure the future of Britain hasn’t already been decided....... at the referendum??
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I would agree with that. I also think if the Tories go to the next election with JRM as leader then you get Corbin as next PM, then the fun really starts!
Honest john
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Your mind is closed to the possibility of advantage.
You said Sterling crashing, that's just the balance mechanism that will give us a competitive advantage. Over let's say Ireland & France. The reason that Agriculture & car plants will forge ahead. Not close down.
Business that sells us substandard crap will not get repeat business, & likely get SUED should goods cause a problem. That's how business self regulates outside the EU.
Come on keep up.
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It was.
I was referring to the future and was responding to the LBC / Devon small holder interview. Because leaving the EU might make their described dystopia possible, doesn't make it in any way likely.
If you consider leaving the EU acts as pressing the reset button, it will be the next government who will have the greatest affect on our future direction as it will be choosing where to place the cornerstones for building the new UK plc.
There are too many people trying to fight that battle now when they need to wait and join together now in the interests of a good deal.
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Wishful thinking. I prefer to base my judgement on the business folk who will be affected and what they say and do, so it's not looking good.
for whom?
france runs a 10 bililon trading surplus with uk
wonder what a real brexit and wto tarriffs would do to that wee number?
Honest john
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You mention the Man, but it's the theory or program he is using. I.e. World trade model.
That turned out the result.
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Trump is working hard to get rid of the WTO at the moment as he sees it as disadvantageous to the USA. So, no deal with the EU could just end up being a worldwide free for all on trade deals. Not a good outcome.
Trump wants rid of WTO, NATO, UN, IMF, World Bank, NAFTA, etc, etc, ...... with no plan or vision for what comes after other than ranting and raving on twitter and doing one on one personal deals with Putin.
See the curious similarity between his chaos and Brexit... tear down something without any idea of what replaces it .......
trumpy is just playing hard ball
opposition capitulation comes quickly
https://www.axios.com/merkel-trump-tariffs-2a630eda-4152-465a-a18e-cfaf9446a6b8.html
opposition capitulation comes quickly
https://www.axios.com/merkel-trump-tariffs-2a630eda-4152-465a-a18e-cfaf9446a6b8.html
TelesnaAg
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typical Libtard rant
i think theres a good case for questioning each oine of those depoartments instead of going along coz thats whats done,
Question it and the debate will follow of what needs to be put in place or disbanaded.
Everyone else has just accepted it and followed on.
NATO - you can fend for yourselves - 70 odd years after WW2, how long do you need to get your sh*t organised.
The UN - after there dramas in haiti and a strong history of condeming - i think it needs to be disbanded or something different - all the condeming they did didnt save a life or fix one issue - just call emergency meeting and condem it.
IMF and WB - printing presses...another outdated org that crypto is probably going to push its reinvention.
NAFTA - will be replaced with individual agreements - but you want see that as you to busy screaming at the sky with your socialist muzzi friends while drinking soy lattes eating cruskets.
WTO - Another useless org that fails in its job - before anyone swings into action you can dump product until u almost done themn the WTO says - ah better stop that...and theres no WTO police so plenty of sanctions get broken.
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TM, bless her is working hard, to do the right thing.
Remember that annoying little man from Nissan, who accosted her in the joyous aftermath of declaring article 50. Well it seems like his words, still haunt TM to this day. No doubt pretty much all the big companies have recently given a rather frank assessment of the likely outcome for much of manufacturing industry in a Moggite Brexit.
And now she tries to gather around her, the lemmings of the NE, who were hoodwinked by Farage, BoJo, Mogger, Fox and a whole host of zealots of Brexit, to give them the real story.
May Tells U.K.'s Leave-Voting Heartlands They Need a Soft Brexit https://www.bloomberg.com/politics/...ave-voting-heartlands-they-need-a-soft-brexit
Remember that annoying little man from Nissan, who accosted her in the joyous aftermath of declaring article 50. Well it seems like his words, still haunt TM to this day. No doubt pretty much all the big companies have recently given a rather frank assessment of the likely outcome for much of manufacturing industry in a Moggite Brexit.
And now she tries to gather around her, the lemmings of the NE, who were hoodwinked by Farage, BoJo, Mogger, Fox and a whole host of zealots of Brexit, to give them the real story.
May Tells U.K.'s Leave-Voting Heartlands They Need a Soft Brexit https://www.bloomberg.com/politics/...ave-voting-heartlands-they-need-a-soft-brexit
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Coveney speaking today on a visit to Northern Ireland. I notice his tone has shifted quite noticably. Not the cock-sure upstart of one-time who thought he could push the British government around. No, the tone was much milder. He's bricking it now at the very real prospect of no deal.
Why wouldn’t he throw a few bones about. The government (sane section) is now clearly rattled and very very worried at what will unfold if there is a hard Brexit. TM has turned back 180 degrees from her Mansion House “Brexit means Brexit” and “no deal is better than blah, blah, blah,”.
It’s abundantly clear, that the government has been privately warned by business that there will be an immediate mass exodus of jobs if there is no deal. More and more information now to hand, that even the hard core Tory Brexiteers privately accept there will be job losses in the “hundreds of thousands” ..... numbers of up to 800k have been mentioned...... “f**k business after all”.
May and the few responsible people in government have now effectively abandoned Brexit all but in name. Vassal state coming to a parliment near you soon.
Coveney rather pleased don’t you think!!!!
But don’t these politicians get some brain waves at the McGill Summer School every year in Donegal!!
Micheal Martin now asserting the Fianna Failers again ...
. NI should have “special economic zone” status he says!! Sort of economic Nirvana, where it can trade tariff free with everybody!! Of course he couldn’t / wouldn’t when pressed say where the border should be ..... nothing quite so cute hoorish than a FF’rinteresting to see what eurocrat hogan had to say at glenties
"very high probability of no deal brexit"
and
" we need a prosperous britain to keep
buying our beef
enjoying our cheeses
using our services
and so much more besides"
Don’t worry. We’re the main reason Britain will stay prosperous. Were it not for handsome Leo digging his Blurshirt heels in over the ditch I mean border, the Mujahadeen would have much more progress made in impoverishing the plebs by now.
Then he softens up the air by sending Saint Brian O’Driscoll up to the Orangemen to bang out a few beats on a Lambeg Drum!!
i have no worries about a prosperous britain
but will we be buying irish beef with a 40% tarriffon it?
With the £11 billion dole from London for NI, to prop up your 35% public service employment system, you should be able to afford caviar and Moët, for breakfast.
dodging the question ashy
do you think we will be buying your beef with a 40% tarriff?
how about pork withe same 40% tarriff?
or how about your cheddar with an eye watering 60% tarrif?
That’s rather simple. UK exports €1.4 billion red meat. ROI exports €3.8 billion proper red meat.
Fifty percent of total ROI meat goes to UK. Therefore €1.9 billion goes from ROI to UK.
So take it you consume your own stuff, caus you can’t export it due to tariffs. We lose our UK market, but take your export market. Now we are down €0.5 billion. No prob, we are now shipping and expanding volumes to USA, Japan and China.
Cheddar .... UK just needs our cheddar. Tariff or not, it is the product of choice. Even Lizzie over in the palace prefers our stuff on her crackers to anything else she can pick up in Sainsbury’s.
If it has the Kerrygold label, it sells anywhere at a premium.