Is Cowabunga right

Henarar

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Livestock Farmer
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Probably. UK ag has been on the decline for at least 40 years. We've lost 52% since 1972. I've never seen such a deep rut, 1970's prices, 2020 costs, supermarket monopolies, couldn't give a fudge general public.
We need a really radical change in policy to escape the rut. £50 / acre dole money ain't going to cut it.
If you think we have it hard now in comparison to some points in farming history you haven't got a fecking clue
 

delilah

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the best way to predict the future is to design it.

old Chinese proverb:
to think 1 year ahead, plant rice
to think 10 years ahead, plant trees
to think 100 years ahead, educate people.

If there is no future for livestock farming then the fault will lie with livestock farmers and their representatives. Many people on here see the public as the customer at best, the enemy at worse.
Make them your partner, in the maintenance of a viable environment fit for human habitation, and you have half a chance.
 
One of the most important things agricultural scientist need to be currently investigating is how to get a dairy cow to be able to come into milk without producing a calf in a manner similar to how a goat can milk as a maiden milker without kidding.
Working this out in my opinion will help both the dairy and beef industries thrive in the forth coming years and getting past major bad publicity from vegans.
That will involve the use of hormones and stories about dairy cows being “pumped full of hormones”.
That won’t sound any better to the masses of terminally gullible.
Giving birth to produce milk is the natural way.


The product is BST, (Bovine Somatotrophin) which works apparently, by increasing cell production or preventing cell death. Which is how cancers spread and develop, is it not? Cells gone rogue. BST Injections need to be regular. And I don’t fancy turning our dairy cows into junkies awaiting a fix.
 

digger64

Member
I cant understand the pessimism. Most of you here are surely old enough to have seen wheat at £60/tonne or the country in the grip of BSE or F and M, or having been stuck with negative equity or interest rates of 15%?

If some of the above was going on Id understand it.
Could farm your way out of trouble then , even in the darkest days post f&m made more sense than today
 

Shep

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One of the most important things agricultural scientist need to be currently investigating is how to get a dairy cow to be able to come into milk without producing a calf in a manner similar to how a goat can milk as a maiden milker without kidding.
Working this out in my opinion will help both the dairy and beef industries thrive in the forth coming years and getting past major bad publicity from vegans.
Wise up! You would mess with nature to applease vegans!
Do you think that would make any difference to them, seriously?
 

SFI - What % were you taking out of production?

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Red Tractor drops launch of green farming scheme amid anger from farmers

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As reported in Independent


quote: “Red Tractor has confirmed it is dropping plans to launch its green farming assurance standard in April“

read the TFF thread here: https://thefarmingforum.co.uk/index.php?threads/gfc-was-to-go-ahead-now-not-going-ahead.405234/
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