Is Cowabunga right

steveR

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Mixed Farmer
One of the most important things agricultural scientist need to be currently investigating is how to get a dairy cow to be able to come into milk without producing a calf in a manner similar to how a goat can milk as a maiden milker without kidding.
Working this out in my opinion will help both the dairy and beef industries thrive in the forth coming years and getting past major bad publicity from vegans.

I've been saying this for 20 years but keep getting shot down... :rolleyes:
 
I thought it only gave about 10-15% extra production anyway.

It was several years since I wrote about it. But from memory, the animal had one calf, then was jabbed regularly to keep the mammary cells from dying, and when the milk dried up, she was shot.
This was in the US, but one of our institutions was trialling it. (BST) After my piece, they were at great pains to point out that the trial milk never entered the food chain. ;)
I didn't say it did.:)

But the last thing the dairy industry wants is to taint its unsullied image of a pure product.
 
I never include my subsidy payments in my costings, mainly due to erratic changes in policy which means I'm without it for long periods. This is why I keep banging on about produce prices. When subs / payments end for everyone, I won't be the only one banging on about produce prices.......

Dont be doing such daft things, I suppose your calculator actually works as well eh? It will never catch on that farming for profit thing, give that up and just farm for the lulz like everyone else!
 

Cowabunga

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Ceredigion,Wales
Is @Cowabunga right, are we doomed? Should we sell everything now whilst there's still a market for stock and land?
It isn’t my report and I do think that their time scale is rather short. However I have been to a seminar today that, while putting a positive spin on it, basically warned of massive changes ahead both in production, eating trends and food production economics
 

7610 super q

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Dont be doing such daft things, I suppose your calculator actually works as well eh? It will never catch on that farming for profit thing, give that up and just farm for the lulz like everyone else!
TBH, I am a hobby farmer. I only bother with it, so I can drive elderly Ford tractors around.:cool:
The farming bit is an annoyance quite frankly.:ROFLMAO:
 

Derrick Hughes

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Location
Ceredigion
It isn’t my report and I do think that their time scale is rather short. However I have been to a seminar today that, while putting a positive spin on it, basically warned of massive changes ahead both in production, eating trends and food production economics
I would be surprised if eating trends dont change as we learn more about human health or is a farmer to bury his his head in the sand before chanting that's all rubbish they will bloody well eat what I want to produce and lump it . That's not to say I dont have a clue what healthy eating is . I just follow the guidelines given to me by the Surgeon who saved my life . Next week I am doing a charity bike ride of 90 milesvafer extensive training . So his advice must have been half right at least
 

delilah

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Something that has only just come to me watching the cattle happily chomping away in the wind....

If we are, as the experts say, in for more extremes of weather, then livestock production may in relation to cropping become easier. Cattle and sheep are more resilient to extremes of temperature, rainfall, and wind than are fruit and vegetables.

Could one scenario be that plants move indoors to hydroponics etc, and the freed up land is used for more extensive livestock production ?
 

caveman

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East Sussex.
But if we can make everything in a lab, where's the need?
Everything coming out of a lab cannot be just plucked out of thin air.
Unless they can remove excess carbon from that air and convert it into food...........
Now.
There's a thought.
Two birds...........?
 
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Henarar

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Livestock Farmer
Location
Somerset
a sum of money granted by the state or a public body to help an industry or business keep the price of a commodity or service low.
"a farm subsidy"

I think our payments generally end up being a subsidy.

They shouldn’t but......
I get a payment for keeping the land in GAEC, how do you get this subsidy ?
 

Muck Spreader

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Livestock Farmer
Location
Limousin
It was several years since I wrote about it. But from memory, the animal had one calf, then was jabbed regularly to keep the mammary cells from dying, and when the milk dried up, she was shot.
This was in the US, but one of our institutions was trialling it. (BST) After my piece, they were at great pains to point out that the trial milk never entered the food chain. ;)
I didn't say it did.:)

But the last thing the dairy industry wants is to taint its unsullied image of a pure product.

I think it may have entered the food chain in some form. I can't remember precisely as it was 30 odd years ago, but it was herd sized trials.
 

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Red Tractor drops launch of green farming scheme amid anger from farmers

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quote: “Red Tractor has confirmed it is dropping plans to launch its green farming assurance standard in April“

read the TFF thread here: https://thefarmingforum.co.uk/index.php?threads/gfc-was-to-go-ahead-now-not-going-ahead.405234/
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