Is gear grinding on a non synchro tractor very bad?

Lincsman

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Arable Farmer
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Lincolnshire
What was the hi/lo on a nuffield? it worked without any crunching, I remember baling with one... thick patch drop to low... only the PTO slowed to the same ratio!
 

DeeGee

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Location
North East Wales
Some of you lot would fooked with an Eaton twin splitter then, or Seddon Atkinson 200 where the higher gears were away from you not nearest. Leyland 5 and 6 speed truck boxes were a pleasure to use.

Can’t help but smile watching videos of those American truck drivers showing us how to change through all the gears on their tractor units.
Spend more than half their time pissing about with multiple gear levers of all shapes and sizes, some of them at head height and even needing two hands to double change through hundreds of ratios. All show and no need.

Absolutely bloody ridiculous set ups more suited to a colony of fidgeting octopuses than a lorry driver.
 

essexpete

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Location
Essex
Can’t help but smile watching videos of those American truck drivers showing us how to change through all the gears on their tractor units.
Spend more than half their time pissing about with multiple gear levers of all shapes and sizes, some of them at head height and even needing two hands to double change through hundreds of ratios. All show and no need.

Absolutely bloody ridiculous set ups more suited to a colony of fidgeting octopuses than a lorry driver.
This is the British way of doing it!
 

DeeGee

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Location
North East Wales
This is the British way of doing it!

Real lorry driving! Could listen to that all day. Is it a Gardner engine?
Why do the Yanks have to all the dramatics of those multiple gear levers and complex changes every three yards?

PS On that Foden is there a foot operated twin axle speed between main gears or something?
 

ford4000

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Livestock Farmer
Location
north Wales
We had a 6600 then 7600 could drive them without using the clutch no problem no grating.we also had a mf 565 it Liked to crunch gears even changing up using the clutch
Still have a 5610 here, often change gears without the clutch or any grinding, just a matter of matching road speed, gear and engine rpm and the gear just drops in with gentle pressure
 

essexpete

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Location
Essex
Real lorry driving! Could listen to that all day. Is it a Gardner engine?
Why do the Yanks have to all the dramatics of those multiple gear levers and complex changes every three yards?

PS On that Foden is there a foot operated twin axle speed between main gears or something?
No it has a Leyland 680. The gearbox is 4 speed constant mesh with an air operated 3 speed epicylic unit so 12 gears. At the top end the driver is using the air shift almost like a splitter. The air shift lever is to the right and under the steering wheel.
 

Dead Rabbits

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Location
'Merica
Can’t help but smile watching videos of those American truck drivers showing us how to change through all the gears on their tractor units.
Spend more than half their time pissing about with multiple gear levers of all shapes and sizes, some of them at head height and even needing two hands to double change through hundreds of ratios. All show and no need.

Absolutely bloody ridiculous set ups more suited to a colony of fidgeting octopuses than a lorry driver.
I’ve never driven as twin stick, those are very old, but 9,10,13 and 18 speeds are still very common. Less common is the 15. Best transmission for off-road driving being the 13 speed. Auto shifts are useless for most things. What do the trucks have in them over there?
 

glasshouse

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Location
lothians
Agree, I don’t think there was synchro on any Ford 1000 series gears, nor Fergies of that era.
David Brown mad a splash with their Synchromesh gearboxes in IIRC the mid 1970’s, but as I recall they were very much the exception on mainline tractors of that era.
International were synchro from 1972
 

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