Is he correct?

Cowabunga

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Ceredigion,Wales
Being as economics will always hold sway I believe Mr. Clarkson is wrong to state it in a black or white situation.......................yes, you could supply 80% of food but if I can supply it cheaper/better then I win.
UK is in a very high cost of production scenario which makes it tough to compete.
I think you misunderstand the concept of 'food security' which has little to do with competition.
 

Pennine Ploughing

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Mixed Farmer
Now then just how would we feed the UK population by being self sufficient ?
1 poster said we waste 40%, and if that stopped we would not need import anything,
I think the figures are more like we cannot even produce 40% without imports.
Yes we may be able to do without avcardo or bananas and the likes, or produce then by other mean at home.
But what about our inputs, ie, fertiliser, sprays, labour, machinery, wheat for bread, soya, maize, pk etc for animal feed, fuel, the vehicles you use, the list goes on and on.
The inputs to account for all that is needed to produce home food, if imports where stopped I bet the figures are sub 40% at best.
You only need look at your profit/ loss account to understand that, as expenditure is another word for imports, and a business that would be truly self sufficient would have no expenditure, just like the UK, we need to import goods to survive.
But don't let the facts get in the way of a good story
 

Cowabunga

Member
Location
Ceredigion,Wales
Now then just how would we feed the UK population by being self sufficient ?
1 poster said we waste 40%, and if that stopped we would not need import anything,
I think the figures are more like we cannot even produce 40% without imports.
Yes we may be able to do without avcardo or bananas and the likes, or produce then by other mean at home.
But what about our inputs, ie, fertiliser, sprays, labour, machinery, wheat for bread, soya, maize, pk etc for animal feed, fuel, the vehicles you use, the list goes on and on.
The inputs to account for all that is needed to produce home food, if imports where stopped I bet the figures are sub 40% at best.
You only need look at your profit/ loss account to understand that, as expenditure is another word for imports, and a business that would be truly self sufficient would have no expenditure, just like the UK, we need to import goods to survive.
But don't let the facts get in the way of a good story
That’s like saying that making cars or steel in the UK shouldn’t count as domestic production because iron ore and oil is imported. It’s an absurd proposition.
 

Cowabunga

Member
Location
Ceredigion,Wales
English cars??? Remember what was coming out in the 60's, 70's and 80's???!!!
There's no need to inflict the rest of the world with that again!!!
Up until 2019 and the plague and Brexit, the UK was building and exporting more cars than it had ever done in the sixties, seventies or eighties. Honda, Toyota, JLR, GM/Vauxhall, Mini, Rolls Royce and Bentley, not forgetting Aston Martin and the big one, Nissan, were and mostly still are building world class and even world beating vehicles. So let's not talk British industry down for no good reason. What does Canada produce? A few Ford's and Toyota. Maybe a few Honda also? Has GM shut up shop as they have in Europe? Not quite perhaps, because they still actually sell cars in Canada whereas they couldn't compete in Europe and have abandoned trying, just like Australia which is a tiny market compared to Europe. The vast majority of your vehicles come from a little country to your south unless I'm very much mistaken.
 

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