Is it too late for AD

pappuller

Member
Livestock Farmer
Location
M6 Hard shoulder
We are in the same position as you, but feel if we can use all electric produced what fits are available will be a little bit of cream on the top.
Currently looking at a biolectric 22 kw system
 

mawleymoos

Member
Location
Shropshire
Have been toying with the idea for a long time! I am also looking at a biolectric 44! But not sure if we have missed the boat! Is there anybody out there that has slurry based digesters working, that can give me their advice on makes/dealers? Anything appreciated!! Thanks
 

TomAg

Member
Have been toying with the idea for a long time! I am also looking at a biolectric 44! But not sure if we have missed the boat! Is there anybody out there that has slurry based digesters working, that can give me their advice on makes/dealers? Anything appreciated!! Thanks

Hi, will get some info out for you, we've been helping out a few plants round us.

I do believe the tariffs have dropped so returns may not be so good!

You'll also need to have a technically competent manager, as it'll be a waste management site, if putting slurry and fym in it!
 

TomAg

Member
I was hopeing it would tidy the place up ! What sort of systems are you working with and where are you based?

Yeah it is good to tidy up,

Slurry and fym, they don't give off as much 'power' than the cropping inputs.

We've helped with a plant putting cropping inputs no slurry, and a plant putting in slurry, chicken litter and crops.

We are in South Shropshire near to Ludlow
 

mawleymoos

Member
Location
Shropshire
Are those "marches" digesters? If so they are high cost/high output! There is lower cost simpler ones , that don't need crops! Which is what I am interested to see! Which side of Ludlow are you?
 

TomAg

Member
Yeah one is and the other is Plantec, there are much cheaper one and lower inputs.

The idea with Marches plants is to produce as much as possible for when the tariffs were paying a very good amount.

Walford college had a a plant that ran completely on slurry. Which I believe exploded! Not saying they aren't safe!

We are the Clee hill side, looking at your name I've worked out we are very close, we are based in Neen Sollars.
 

TomAg

Member
Another one is Advanced Anaerobic Limited (AAL) they offer simple systems aimed at dairy farms, they can run completely on fresh slurry, no need for energy crops.

SlurryGen are what they call the plants, they offer different sizes.

SlurryGen 50
-Output 1200kWh/day
SlurryGen 30
-Output 720kWh/day
SlurryGen 30 (s)
-Output 360kWh/day

For a slurry based system you'll need a Technically Competent Manager, to keep the (EA) happy we can help source one from Systemedics, they put all the systems in to keep everything lawful

They say they want SlurryGen to be easy to buy, easy to own, and easy to operate.

If you want give me a ring today or if you want any more info will get you some more that's all I had to hand.
 

sjt01

Member
Mixed Farmer
Location
North Norfolk
Presumably any small slurry based AD system would operate under a T24, which nowhere mentions a Technically Competent Manager. Obviously any plant needs a competent operator but nothing formally defined.

Stephen
 

mawleymoos

Member
Location
Shropshire
The biolectric that I seen recently seemed to be v.simple/ almost automatic! Electric slurry pump! Nothing else to add! Probably not as simple as that, but using one standard product 365 must help! We haven't got time to run it as another business! We want simplicity!!!!
 

TomAg

Member
Presumably any small slurry based AD system would operate under a T24, which nowhere mentions a Technically Competent Manager. Obviously any plant needs a competent operator but nothing formally defined.

Stephen


You certainly can get a T24 exemption, put it is very limiting!
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sjt01

Member
Mixed Farmer
Location
North Norfolk
We have been running under a T24 for some time, and U10 for digestate application. Previously under a Para 12. As far as we are concerned the major drawback is the 400 kW maximum input (not electrical output) which we just scrape under with our CHP. We also have a boiler for use when CHP is being serviced, and had to get a special dispensation to use T24 via our MP, certifiying that we could not use CHP and boiler together.
We could not get under SR16 as we are too close to houses and boreholes, the plant was installed before these restrictions were introduced, and obviously cannot be moved.
For a slurry only digester, why go for anything other than T24?

Stephen
 

mawleymoos

Member
Location
Shropshire
We have been running under a T24 for some time, and U10 for digestate application. Previously under a Para 12. As far as we are concerned the major drawback is the 400 kW maximum input (not electrical output) which we just scrape under with our CHP. We also have a boiler for use when CHP is being serviced, and had to get a special dispensation to use T24 via our MP, certifiying that we could not use CHP and boiler together.
We could not get under SR16 as we are too close to houses and boreholes, the plant was installed before these restrictions were introduced, and obviously cannot be moved.
For a slurry only digester, why go for anything other than T24?

Stephen
Is a T24 ok to spread your own digestate on your own land?
 

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