Yes up to 2 or 3 years ago total must have done a better deal
Is John Deere Plus-50 oil worth it
- Thread starter ricardodba
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Yes but your missing the point the tractor is here to work for me not the other way round.a £ saved mite make the difference between the chip shop and the pub
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- North West
Penny wise pound foolish, £60 is f all compared to an engine rebuild.
Yes you may get an oil that’s fine and you get trouble free running for the life of the machine, but then again I’ve seen plenty that picked the wrong one! But hey it keeps me in the lifestyle I’ve become accustom to
seedman stains
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- lost in france
So what is the point of an oil spec or whatever they are called e7/9 acea ? Makers dont want choice do they?
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- North West
People are free to choose, I could choose to buy a nut gun from Aldi or I could buy a Milwaukee. Should I just buy on price? They both do the same do the after all.
ACEngineering
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- Oxon
E9 can be either a mid or low ash, when engines doing a regen of the DPF to burn the crap out its important you have a lower ash content in the oil.
marco
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- tipperary, ireland
I service mine with the John Deere oil every 250 hrs.
Phil
When jd and our oil supplier come back with blend specs etc then you can argue if you wish
Regards pub fish chips
If we go out locally we only go to the crown at Rudham as it’s husband wife cooking , it’s is consistently excellent on quality , service and value , or you can go to the north coast and get maybe similar or poorer or maybe better , but at a price premium where all the southerners Londoners pretentious pricks think it’s better because it’s costs more .
Oh should we use Landrover badged oil
Game keepers td5 just turned 305 ooo miles and not had easy life he worse than some stock men and thst has run on our oil suppliers oil all its life My question is
Prove thst oil up to spec is not good enough
After all shell and exon blend for jd to a spec
Protec
10w 40
So if we put protec in a John Deere it will blow up
but in a class it will be ok
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- North West
I don’t need to prove anything, you and anyone else can run whatever oil you like it doesn’t bother me I’m only voicing my opinion and my advice is only worth what you’re paying for it!Phil
When jd and our oil supplier come back with blend specs etc then you can argue if you wish
Regards pub fish chips
If we go out locally we only go to the crown at Rudham as it’s husband wife cooking , it’s is consistently excellent on quality , service and value , or you can go to the north coast and get maybe similar or poorer or maybe better , but at a price premium where all the southerners Londoners pretentious pricks think it’s better because it’s costs more .
Oh should we use Landrover badged oil
My question is
Prove thst oil up to spec is not good enough
After all shell and exon blend for jd to a spec
However I’ve spent two decades rebuilding jd engines, I’m quite happy to pay the premium and run all my jd’s on my Plus 50 II. What anyone else does is up to them
So to the original question you obviously think it is worth the extra .Thank youI don’t need to prove anything, you and anyone else can run whatever oil you like it doesn’t bother me I’m only voicing my opinion and my advice is only worth what you’re paying for it!
However I’ve spent two decades rebuilding jd engines, I’m quite happy to pay the premium and run all my jd’s on my Plus 50 II. What anyone else does is up to them
76masseyman
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- Lincolncestershire
I don’t think Morris were prepared to jump through the hoops Claas were wanting regarding advertising and differences in packaging.
I also seem to recall Total were already doing the European supply of their lubes, so it was probably inevitable.
kiwi pom
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- canterbury NZ
If you're only running stuff to 3 or 4 thousand hours and moving machines on, it probably doesn't matter what you put in as long as its up to the spec. If you're trying to get 20 thousand hours out of a motor before rebuilding it, you might want to pay more attention to what you're putting in and how often you change it, maybe using oil sampling too.
Not my advice, just something a mechanic who spent a lot of time rebuilding engines told me once.
My supplier tells me JD oil is made by Shell
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- East Sussex
It is and the shell badged oil is cheaper but not enough when it comes to organising delivery of a 205l barrel compared to the jd badged stuff from a dealer imo.
ollie989898
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There was a thread on here some time ago where two JD engines had been disassembled and the one which hadn't been using the oil specified by JD had all it's cross hatching worn off?
I don't know if I would be too keen on ignoring the manufacturers spec when it came to engine oil for fear of upsetting the machine gods.
Of course Shell or someone else makes the oil for JD. JD makes agricultural equipment, Shell and the like make oil. One company has expertise in one product, the other has experience in a totally different field. You'd expect an equipment manufacturer to use an actual oil company for manufacturing and supplying lubricants or do you expect JD to start up their own oil production side business?
I don't know if I would be too keen on ignoring the manufacturers spec when it came to engine oil for fear of upsetting the machine gods.
Of course Shell or someone else makes the oil for JD. JD makes agricultural equipment, Shell and the like make oil. One company has expertise in one product, the other has experience in a totally different field. You'd expect an equipment manufacturer to use an actual oil company for manufacturing and supplying lubricants or do you expect JD to start up their own oil production side business?