Is this a crime ???

Discussion in 'Crime Line' started by Harvey G, Mar 21, 2019.

  1. Harvey G

    Harvey G Member

    yorkshire wildlife trust caught cutting hedges in the nesting season is this illegal?? It is for us farmers !! upload_2019-3-21_9-9-41.jpeg
     
  2. Hopefully, Yes. Do they receive any BPS payments? If so they should be stopped for the breach.
     
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  3. Harvey G

    Harvey G Member

    Don’t know if they receive owt . Doubt it they have plenty of money to waste!! Bad job though they are the ones that do all the preaching!!
     
  4. Lofty1984

    Lofty1984 Member

    Location:
    Cardiff
    Isn’t it more flail cutting that’s illegal?
     
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  5. David.

    David. Member

    Location:
    J11 M40
    I think you can lay hedges and cut manually until April.

    What is the job come to, when you are accepting or even hoping that they are committing a "crime" by doing a bit of tidying up on their own ground?:scratchhead:
     
  6. Zippy768

    Zippy768 Member

    Location:
    Dorset/Wilts
     
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  7. Princess Pooper

    Location:
    East Mids
    It's the disturbing of nesting birds that is illegal. Translated into cross compliance, it is mechanical (tractor) trimming finishes at 1 March. Manual cutting, hedge laying etc can continue to 1 April on the basis that you are more likely to spot nests than when on a tractor and should not disturb one when found. So no, they are not doing anything illegal, just as my neighbouring farming who is still hedgelaying is not doing anything illegal.
     
  8. Still Farming

    Still Farming Member

    Location:
    Glamorgan Wales
    Would you build a nest with that lot about?
    Typical , wildlife groups dictate do as i say and not as i do alledgely is it?
    Report to relavant depts.
     
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  9. I think it’s ok to hedgelaying until end of April rather than beginning?
     
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  10. Mursal

    Mursal Member

    Did you run it past the birds?
     
  11. Kidds

    Kidds Member

    Location:
    Warrington
    Birds are definitely nesting around here now. Hand cutting or not
     
  12. multi power

    multi power Member

    Location:
    pembrokeshire
    Hedge cutting at any time of the year is NOT illigeal
    May not meet cross compliance but that isn't a crime
     
  13. Stuff the payment and cut when you like. You know you want to.
     
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  14. Princess Pooper

    Location:
    East Mids
    But if you destroy birds nests as part of that process, or cause nest abandonment, be prepared for a fine and a criminal record. A birding friend of mine is often called in as an expert witness for birds nest destruction (not just hedges, but people knocking martin and swallow nests down because they don't like the cr*p under them, etc).
     
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  15. Paddington

    Paddington Member

    Location:
    Soggy Shropshire
    :rolleyes: Just had to er, relocate four jackdaw nests to get to our gas bottles, two of the nests were using the valves as a base. I shall cite fire risk if plod comes round.;)
     
  16. Jim t

    Jim t Member

    Location:
    Shropshire
    Think I know the answer but is one allowed to rip up a hedge say 20’ to make an exciting gate way bigger?
     
  17. Goweresque

    Goweresque Member

    Location:
    North Wilts
  18. womble8350

    womble8350 Member

    Location:
    York
    But then you would be in breach of the countryside wildlife act!,
    It funny how many farmers think that shoving the bps would free them from legislation but in reality a lot of the laws exist outside of cross compliance.
     
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  19. Lazy Eric

    Lazy Eric Member

    Cross compliance or not is it really big and clever to smash song bird nests to bits by hedge cutting in nesting season??!if you think it is your a fudgeing disgrace to British agriculture.
     
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