Is This The Future?

[Exfarmer]

The Crown estate is not the property of the Queen, her property is the Duchy of Lancaster.
The Crown estate basically belongs to the people and all revenues go to the treasury, in return we pay the Monarch an annual allowance for their duties.
it is not correct to say that the queen owns the shoreline and seabed.

 

[glasshouse]

The Crown estate is not the property of the Queen, her property is the Duchy of Lancaster.
The Crown estate basically belongs to the people and all revenues go to the treasury, in return we pay the Monarch an annual allowance for their duties.
it is not correct to say that the queen owns the shoreline and seabed.

That change was only made a few yrs ago.
If it was the case, ehy has the title not been altered tothe peoples estate?

 

[Exfarmer]

That change was only made a few yrs ago.
If it was the case, ehy has the title not been altered tothe peoples estate?

Essentially George the third handed his possessions across to the government as the Crown estate. He like so many Monarchs before him and since,was effectively bankrupt. Up till this time the Monarch was responsible for the running of government , the military etc. Tax raising on the people was then, as now slightly unpopular
This estate was until then in the sole possession of the ruling monarch and could only be passed in its entirety to the next .
George the third passed it entirely to the government in return for a renumeration to cover the Monarchs running costs.
The effect of this change basically put the onus of tax levying on to the government rather than the Monarch, tax levying by Monarchs was a major reason for social unrest and revolution across the world.
there have been modifications to the running in the 1950’s and 60’s due to issues, which I cannot remember, but I think partly due to the current queen Needing a far higher income to meer her requirements in the modern world

 

[wanton dwarf]

@wanton dwarf

Offshore makes sense for a few reasons.

1: Higher capacity factor
2: Not having to deal with all the crap that comes with getting PP for an onshore wind farm. You know the kind of thing, where the RSPB/CPRE/Ramblers Association/Lower Bumblefück Residents Association put in objection after objection
3: Offshore wind farms effectively create mini marine reserves. Those fishing outside near those areas have seen increased catches.

If you want to find a real scandal look at what the ‘leccy companies are paying those producing power from sub 50kW PV and wind installations compared to what they’re selling it for.

I understand the PR but that doesn't take away the fact it's taking money away directly from local economies directly into the pockets of large corporations which specifically avoid or do not pay taxes.

Whilst at the same time nobody onshore can maintain or take over operation because they don't have either the equipment or the skills.

This puts whole populations at the risk of a few people, who are already very rich. There is no reason to do this. The RSPB etc can fudge off. They have a guaranteed tax free legislated income stream .. pretty much as these offshore industries do.

Two things about sub 50Kw. Most farmers can create such a scheme to look after them and their interests in not being ripped off by the above companies - with circa 6p a unit cost basis. The subsidies you highlight don't exist today .. I know because I want a 15kw+ solar scheme and a 6-10kw wind turbine so I can avoid the ridiculous electricity power generation scam.

 

[wanton dwarf]

The Crown estate is not the property of the Queen, her property is the Duchy of Lancaster.
The Crown estate basically belongs to the people and all revenues go to the treasury, in return we pay the Monarch an annual allowance for their duties.
it is not correct to say that the queen owns the shoreline and seabed.

That would be a matter of a legal case should it ever come to fruition.

But just because "income" goes to the "treasury" doesn't mean some of the money gets diverted to other causes either before or after. The public will never see what goes on and who gets money.

Pretty much the same with foreign aid .. £15 Billion into a black whole.

 

[Exfarmer]

That would be a matter of a legal case should it ever come to fruition.

But just because "income" goes to the "treasury" doesn't mean some of the money gets diverted to other causes either before or after. The public will never see what goes on and who gets money.

Pretty much the same with foreign aid .. £15 Billion into a black whole.

The Crown estate publishes its financial report in full, you are welcome to study it, please don't put it in the same bracket as foreign aid.

 

[glasshouse]

The Crown estate publishes its financial report in full, you are welcome to study it, please don't put it in the same bracket as foreign aid.

Both are a waste

 

[wanton dwarf]

The Crown estate publishes its financial report in full, you are welcome to study it, please don't put it in the same bracket as foreign aid.

Business, managers, accountants, directors, agents, contractors will manipulate finances towards their own ends for good or ill.

 

[How much]

Anticyclones tend to produce sunny days. That's why it is a three pronged approach.
Looking at the map, New England is about 10 degrees S of GB so I would think that the balance here would be slightly more in favour of wind against solar. I suppose that is the reason govt. is progressing offshore wind. Would you think GB has better wind characteristics with our prevailing S Westerlies?
Maybe this would also mean increased battery capacity to say 50 hours rather than the 40 I mention up thread.
From one of my fields in Anglesey I can see about 30 windmills, including one smock mill which has been rebuilt and preserved. It is very rarely that I have seen them at rest (maybe twice?), even when it is totally calm where I'm working. I happened to be processing a hay crop when they were being installed. They took one day to put one up, presumably after the foundations had been poured and cured.

just because they are turning does not mean they are generating power the blades freewheel on most turbines to be able to take advantage of any strong gusts that can start generation but it takes a reasonable breeze to actually generate power , until that level is reached they will just freewheel and follow the wind direction.

 

[Y Fan Wen]

But who owns them ?

Why are landowners being stopped from creating their own power only to get big corporates monopolising the market ? This energy is more expensive AND we have to pay a premium on top.

I don't like the premise of what is happening - the public are being ignored, nobody voted for being dominated by a few already rich people.

The programme said the Danish electric co. I think. I'll have another look at the prog. to check.

 

[Exfarmer]

Both are a waste

And how would you run the Crown estate differently?

 

[glasshouse]

And how would you run the Crown estate differently?

Sell it off, let the tenants get on with it ratheer than be run by some quango

 

[Y Fan Wen]

Some of you will be pleased to learn that Tony Seba and his team has published another forecast in their RethinkX series. This one is called 'Climate Implications'

Climate Executive Summary — RethinkX

Technology disruptions already underway in the energy, transportation, and food sectors have extraordinary implications for climate change. These three disruptions alone driven by just six technologies can directly eliminate over 90% of net greenhouse gas (GHG) emissions worldwide within 15 years.

www.rethinkx.com

Looking at the summary, they pull together their previous 3 reports on energy, transport and agriculture to show how these develop over the next 10 to 15 years and how the forces they release will solve, they reckon, 90% of the emissions problem. As usual the agriculture section doesn't make pleasant reading for us l/s guys:

'Technology disruptions already underway in the energy, transportation, and food sectors have extraordinary implications for climate change. These three disruptions alone driven by just eight technologies can directly eliminate over 90% of net greenhouse gas (GHG) emissions worldwide within 15 years.'

'Although reaching net zero emissions will not solve the problem of climate change entirely on its own, it represents a huge step in the right direction. The same technologies that make these dramatic emissions reductions possible will also make carbon withdrawal at the gigaton scale feasible. The combination of superabundant clean energy, electric and autonomous vehicles and machines, and billions of hectares of land freed from animal agriculture, will transform the economics of both reforestation and technology-based carbon withdrawal. This makes the three disruptions doubly essential for achieving a complete climate change solution.'

'This means removing barriers that favor the incumbents such as utility monopolies in the energy sector, removing regulatory hurdles to electric and autonomous vehicles in the transportation sector, and removing livestock farming subsidies and protections in the food sector.'

 

[primmiemoo]

By crikey that's an agenda and a half. What money oils their wheels sustains their energy?

It's been quite since their last report that I've read such clickbait puce prose.

 

[DaveGrohl]

CBA frankly.

 

[Y Fan Wen]

RethinkX are posting some short videos on their report Rethinking Humanity. This is the first one:

'We will be releasing two episodes every week, on Monday and Thursday at 8am PT/11am
ET, so keep an eye out for the next instalment this Thursday.'

 

[Y Fan Wen]

'In the US, Europe and Asia, a host of startup companies have begun to produce fish and shellfish meats without raising or killing whole animals. Singapore-based Shiok Meats has produced both the world’s first lobster meat and the world’s first crab meat using cellular agriculture. In San Francisco, Wildtype Foods makes sushi-quality salmon meat that even has the alternating pink and white pattern seen in meat taken from salmon fish. Berlin-based Bluu Biosciences calls itself “the first European company to focus on producing fish from a bioreactor”. And in San Diego, BlueNalu is constructing a facility to produce multiple kinds of fish products.'

RethinkX report on whales

 

[wanton dwarf]

'In the US, Europe and Asia, a host of startup companies have begun to produce fish and shellfish meats without raising or killing whole animals. Singapore-based Shiok Meats has produced both the world’s first lobster meat and the world’s first crab meat using cellular agriculture. In San Francisco, Wildtype Foods makes sushi-quality salmon meat that even has the alternating pink and white pattern seen in meat taken from salmon fish. Berlin-based Bluu Biosciences calls itself “the first European company to focus on producing fish from a bioreactor”. And in San Diego, BlueNalu is constructing a facility to produce multiple kinds of fish products.'

RethinkX report on whales

Live animals are alive because their life cycle is healthy. Diseased animals die and those with long term health problems exhibit lesions, cancers etc. These health probelms are hopefully caught at the abbatoir if not before. These animals also starve if their food source is also diseased or contaminated.

Now consider lab grown meat. How exactly is anyone going to know if that meat is safe to eat ? Nobody can because there is no body, no guts, no skin, no eyes or indeed anything else to show warning signs of contamination and risk of ill health.

I would also imagine those meats are going to be short of natural vitamins and minerals - for example no natural sun light.

I'm pretty sure those who create such meat will only be too happy to use processes which are inherently dangerous to health - as every other highly processed food has been.

 

[Ffermer Bach]

Anticyclones tend to produce sunny days. That's why it is a three pronged approach.
Looking at the map, New England is about 10 degrees S of GB so I would think that the balance here would be slightly more in favour of wind against solar. I suppose that is the reason govt. is progressing offshore wind. Would you think GB has better wind characteristics with our prevailing S Westerlies?
Maybe this would also mean increased battery capacity to say 50 hours rather than the 40 I mention up thread.
From one of my fields in Anglesey I can see about 30 windmills, including one smock mill which has been rebuilt and preserved. It is very rarely that I have seen them at rest (maybe twice?), even when it is totally calm where I'm working. I happened to be processing a hay crop when they were being installed. They took one day to put one up, presumably after the foundations had been poured and cured.

the longest period the turbines on the farm here are stopped is when the grid is servicing their lines in the summer (the line to Swansea). I was told this area is good for wind turbines, as the wind does not get too strong (and they have to be turned off) and more importantly not too much gusty wind, which again means they need turning off, personally I like wind turbines, but with two caveats, firstly, they should never be built on peat land (as the Carbon released from the peat is greater than the saving from the turbines) and, Wind Farm Companies are the most immoral, unconscionable people who treat everyone like untermensch.

 

[Exfarmer]

the longest period the turbines on the farm here are stopped is when the grid is servicing their lines in the summer (the line to Swansea). I was told this area is good for wind turbines, as the wind does not get too strong (and they have to be turned off) and more importantly not too much gusty wind, which again means they need turning off, personally I like wind turbines, but with two caveats, firstly, they should never be built on peat land (as the Carbon released from the peat is greater than the saving from the turbines) and, Wind Farm Companies are the most immoral, unconscionable people who treat everyone like untermensch.

I find it very difficult to believe that the turbines will not save more CO2 than the peat removed. It woulld need thousands of tonnes to make a dint in the Carbon saving that a large turbine can save. Even allowing for all the construction of turbine and base as well.