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Is Trump Right About Free Trade
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wanton dwarf
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Is there anything such as free trade ?
Gold plated UK regulation whilst imports come flying in without regulation .. that's not "free trade", that's exploitation.
Trump is looking after the voters which supported him.
Is Mrs May looking after the Shires which got her elected ?
Gold plated UK regulation whilst imports come flying in without regulation .. that's not "free trade", that's exploitation.
Trump is looking after the voters which supported him.
Is Mrs May looking after the Shires which got her elected ?
Trump’s megaphone diplomacy of free trade and tariffs, are nothing at all new coming from American presidents.
Didn’t Reagan and GW Bush also wail loudly about imports undermining America and American workers. Ronnie Reagan was particularly upset with the Japanese for sending over cars that were far superior than the American tat produced domestically.
Bush slapped tariffs on steel and Ronnie slapped quotas on Japanese cars. Made a whole lot of noise for voter consumption.
Couple of years later when the same voters were on the receiving end of the resultant and inevitable inflation, the tariffs and quotas were quietly dropped.
When Johnny Rustbelt will soon have to pay a few more cents for his can of Budweiser, to fund the tariff on aluminium, he won’t be a happy camper.
Ditto when he has to pay a blast of extra cash for his Chevy.
Didn’t Reagan and GW Bush also wail loudly about imports undermining America and American workers. Ronnie Reagan was particularly upset with the Japanese for sending over cars that were far superior than the American tat produced domestically.
Bush slapped tariffs on steel and Ronnie slapped quotas on Japanese cars. Made a whole lot of noise for voter consumption.
Couple of years later when the same voters were on the receiving end of the resultant and inevitable inflation, the tariffs and quotas were quietly dropped.
When Johnny Rustbelt will soon have to pay a few more cents for his can of Budweiser, to fund the tariff on aluminium, he won’t be a happy camper.
Ditto when he has to pay a blast of extra cash for his Chevy.
What tarrifs does the eu put on Americans stuff?
RobFZS
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The question should be, what tariffs does the EU put on Chinese steel, we're not ones to lecture
Roger Perry
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98% of the steel and aluminum used in American automobiles is produced within the U.S.
They reckon the price of a sixpack will increase by about 1 cent.............hardly earth shattering.
Apparently we purchase 15% of UK steel output...who knew.
They reckon the price of a sixpack will increase by about 1 cent.............hardly earth shattering.
Apparently we purchase 15% of UK steel output...who knew.
wanton dwarf
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As far as I know all UK Steel foundaries have closed because David Cameron, our ex Prime Minister, didn't bother putting tariffs on the recent Chinese Steel dumped across the world.
All we have left is Indian owned plants that recycle waste.
David Cameron ran off in a huff and resigned the shiny faced coward.
Back tracking already!!
Trump trade adviser sees business exemptions for new tariffs http://uk.reuters.com/article/uk-us...ness-exemptions-for-new-tariffs-idUKKBN1GG0NT
Trump trade adviser sees business exemptions for new tariffs http://uk.reuters.com/article/uk-us...ness-exemptions-for-new-tariffs-idUKKBN1GG0NT
Roger Perry
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If you have ever made a deal in your life you know the first step is ask for more than you are prepared to take.
America has an imbalance in trade of $800 billion, as he stated throughout the election, it was his intent , if elected, to try to correct this situation........the people who voted for President Trump support him in this move to fair trade.
America has an imbalance in trade of $800 billion, as he stated throughout the election, it was his intent , if elected, to try to correct this situation........the people who voted for President Trump support him in this move to fair trade.
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I dont blame him, why not look after your own country first n foremost.
its what we should have been doing years ago.
Brexit will change things but maybes not what those that voted for in the short term unfortunately (Me Inc)
its what we should have been doing years ago.
Brexit will change things but maybes not what those that voted for in the short term unfortunately (Me Inc)
Roger Perry
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Viewed from a distance it appears that Britain is all talk and no do. (Brexit)
How come if the will of the people is out.............just be out, all this talk is just circus, true leaders make stuff happen......not just talk it to death.
How come if the will of the people is out.............just be out, all this talk is just circus, true leaders make stuff happen......not just talk it to death.
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Well said sir
Because too many at the top have their snouts in the trough and are advised by civil servants who time after time have shown they are completely useless. Turkeys dont vote for xmas, its a bit like all the bull going on in the states plenty protecting their own little nests
TelesnaAg
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Fair trade...and you must protect your country...there eill be down sides but.it needs balancing.
Our rural areas in oz are getting void of people...suicide rates in rural areas sky high...services shrinking...
If we continue down this path of "you must get bigger" there will eventually be a handful of land holders on each country...exagerated i know but you nlknow what i mean..
I dont buy it all...the free trade is bs..weve lost alot of skills we still.need even with technology.
India just slapped huge tarriffs on peas etc..
Trump is right to look after usa auto industry...might be a bit dearer...keeps the community healthy...doesnt have to be all gang bustas all the time...
Ant...
Our rural areas in oz are getting void of people...suicide rates in rural areas sky high...services shrinking...
If we continue down this path of "you must get bigger" there will eventually be a handful of land holders on each country...exagerated i know but you nlknow what i mean..
I dont buy it all...the free trade is bs..weve lost alot of skills we still.need even with technology.
India just slapped huge tarriffs on peas etc..
Trump is right to look after usa auto industry...might be a bit dearer...keeps the community healthy...doesnt have to be all gang bustas all the time...
Ant...
Of course Trump doesn’t bother with the details. Like Boris in that sense as well as the thatch on top.
Trump Threat Undercut by GM's Euro Exit, Germans' U.S. Expansion https://www.bloomberg.com/news/arti...ercut-by-gm-s-euro-exit-germans-u-s-expansion
Trump Threat Undercut by GM's Euro Exit, Germans' U.S. Expansion https://www.bloomberg.com/news/arti...ercut-by-gm-s-euro-exit-germans-u-s-expansion
Roger Perry
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So right now we let your Range Rovers/Mercedes etc in at 2.5 % while you guys levy 10% on anything going your direction........not very fair is it..?
Tut tut. Do like the Germans do in America. They build plants there and produce American style vehicles for the American market. Export lots of them also. Win, win.
They Japanese do likewise in Europe. Build plants, hire people build European style cars. Win, win.
Ford of America of course figured that out decades ago. Set up in Europe. Built cars fir European taste. Win win.
What did GM and Chevrolet do? Slapped loads of American style cars on a ship and sent to Europe.
We didn’t buy them. Price was not the issue. Style was. There is a huge difference you know.