Is veganism a religion?

[Cowabunga]

The Vegan Society is a charity. As is the League Against Cruel Sports.

They must qualify as religions then ??

 

[quattro]

i think it’s quite worrying all these people with different beliefs whether it is food or their sexuality
recently on a course first thing was fire escapes then started talking of toilets having to make it clear you can use which one you think is suitable for your sexuality
it won’t be long before a lot of business have to cater for various oddballs

 

[jed]

Feck the vegans there only one religion on my table
36 day matured ribeye steak ???

 

[FonterraFarmer]

Religeon is belief in something totally ridiculous and unbelievable and no proof whatsoever it exists. Yet millions do and are encouraged or forced to do so.
I can't see how veganism is even in the same sort of category. It's just a lifestyle choice.

Oh, but aliens are real!!!????

 

[Grassman]

Oh, but aliens are real!!!????

Everything is real to some delusional folk!

 

[Cowabunga]

There's a nice little article in The Telegraph this evening by a chap called Jamie Blackett, who some of you might know, on the subject of veganuary and the corporate interests pushing non-farmed protein and vegan agendas. Unfortunately he uses the Monsanto corporation as his example several times. A company that no longer exists, partly because 'environmentalists' thwarted its science and killed it off, certainly to a very large degree. He should know that Monsanto doesn't exist any longer and despite it being a popular little demonising soundbite, his readers will not take long to realise this even though he probably means it in generic terms as a wrapper for corporate misuse of power [as the 'environmentalists' used to see it].

This may well be behind a paywall, but here is the link anyhow...

The vegan craze is a self-serving corporate con

While multinational companies make a fortune from meat-free products, livestock farmers are struggling

www.telegraph.co.uk

 

[warksfarmer]

Sacked vegan brings landmark discrimination case

A tribunal will decide for the first time if veganism is a "philosophical belief" akin to a religion.

www.bbc.co.uk

If today’s case is successful, presumably it will be a hate crime to be critical of them in any way?

The few vegans I’ve met have all been delusional and brainwashed. When you point out to them that they clearly aren’t true vegans - see charts below, they go into fight mode. They dont know what logic is. This is exactly the same as a cult sect religion.

 

[Muddyroads]

Visited my 28 year old daughter yesterday who is embarrassingly a vegan. She proudly showed me her pet gecko in a glass cage about 600x600x600. When I asked her what she feeds it, she showed me a plastic box with live crickets in it!

 

[Scribus]

There's a nice little article in The Telegraph this evening by a chap called Jamie Blackett, who some of you might know, on the subject of veganuary and the corporate interests pushing non-farmed protein and vegan agendas. Unfortunately he uses the Monsanto corporation as his example several times. A company that no longer exists, partly because 'environmentalists' thwarted its science and killed it off, certainly to a very large degree. He should know that Monsanto doesn't exist any longer and despite it being a popular little demonising soundbite, his readers will not take long to realise this even though he probably means it in generic terms as a wrapper for corporate misuse of power [as the 'environmentalists' used to see it].

This may well be behind a paywall, but here is the link anyhow...

The vegan craze is a self-serving corporate con

While multinational companies make a fortune from meat-free products, livestock farmers are struggling

www.telegraph.co.uk

The electric vehicle craze is also a self serving corporate con that needs exposing as such, we can also throw 5G into the mix although that is not being sold as being green, in fact EV's aren't either nowadays.

 

[Stewart Setter]

Visited my 28 year old daughter yesterday who is embarrassingly a vegan. She proudly showed me her pet gecko in a glass cage about 600x600x600. When I asked her what she feeds it, she showed me a plastic box with live crickets in it!

Actually that's a good thing.. she clearly understands that the Gecko has a specific diet, I've read so many cases lately of Vegan's forcing their meat eating pets on a Vegan diet. Most Vegan's I have met and spoken to are Vegan because they themselves either choose to be or have to because some medical reason, most had meat eating pets and feed them the appropriate diet and none of them force their point of view on me or pick at how I choose to live and eat.

I've said so many times, most Vegan's would be appalled at the behaviour of these people, much the same as most people of Islam are appalled at those that cause devastating loss of life with there selfish extremist ways..

 

[Scribus]

Actually that's a good thing.. she clearly understands that the Gecko has a specific diet, I've read so many cases lately of Vegan's forcing their meat eating pets on a Vegan diet. Most Vegan's I have met and spoken to are Vegan because they themselves either choose to be or have to because some medical reason, most had meat eating pets and feed them the appropriate diet and none of them force their point of view on me or pick at how I choose to live and eat.

I've said so many times, most Vegan's would be appalled at the behaviour of these people, much the same as most people of Islam are appalled at those that cause devastating loss of life with there selfish extremist ways..

I'd agree. My 28 YO daughter veered towards the vegetarian route because she feels healthier for it, not because she was persuaded by the trendiness of doing so. Her husband is a rampant carnivore who happily accepts that she is not, in fact he's one of those who'd eat a horse daily and still be skinny as a rake, trying to keep him fed on veg alone would be impossible which just underlines how different we all are and how wrong and nonsensical it is to insist on any one diet for everyone.

With regards to Islam I was recently chatting to a doctor from Pakistan as he cheerfully sewed my head back together and besides admonishing me for not following the cricket he noted that the Islamic world is getting really quite restless about America and the use of 9/11 as an excuse to subjugate it. He wouldn't be drawn on details but he obviously didn't believe one word of the official narrative.

 

[Tomr10]

No one is forced to sell Halal or Kosher in their eatery, so how would they be forced to sell a vegan menu? If you don't sell the food they eat, they can eat elsewhere, the same as any other cult, religion or nut job.

My mother and sister own a couple of cafes and they stock a few vegan products. Their suppliers all tell them the same thing, don't advertise them as vegan, because no one will buy them! If "the" vegan asks for a vegan option, you can point them to the product but if you label it as vegan it'll sit there till "the" vegan happens to walk through the door.

Not read further into the thread yet but.

Although a company can get force to sell it. If your a company and you take your employees out and dont cater for kosher or halla it can be taken as discrimination

 

[CornishTone]

Looks like he won the first bit!
Ethical veganism is 'philosophical belief' https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-50981359

 

[Tomr10]

Yer just seen

 

[Muddyroads]

Had a funny feeling that he would. Still, just because it’s a philosophy doesn’t mean it’s right.

 

[melted welly]

All these pr#€ks with their pretend “charity”, “activist”, whatever “jobs” making careers out of being difficult, obnoxious and loud.
Now they’re turning on each other, bunging up the court system with their nasty little narcissistic “look at me” cases, paying the legal eagles handsomely in the process, no doubt from donations garnered from the gullible and well meaning.
Self-serving shower of shite.

 

[Danllan]

Interesting. Now we know who was adjudicating, Robin Postle, I've done a quick check on him and his past cases; he seems alright, no axe to grind or crazy views.

As for his judgement, I've just scanned it and it's sound; the case and the ratio are coherent and set a very interesting precedent. The reason I write that is because it re-opens the door for religious objections to e.g. homosexuality to be upheld in the workplace, and maybe elsewhere too.

I wonder if the LACS will appeal...

 

[Muddyroads]

Ethical veganism is philosophical belief, tribunal rules

Ethical vegan Jordi Casamitjana is "extremely happy" with a tribunal's ruling his belief is protected in law.

www.bbc.co.uk

The BBC’s report.

 

[Scribus]

Interesting. Now we know who was adjudicating, Robin Postle, I've done a quick check on him and his past cases; he seems alright, no axe to grind or crazy views.

As for his judgement, I've just scanned it and it's sound; the case and the ratio are coherent and set a very interesting precedent. The reason I write that is because it re-opens the door for religious objections to e.g. homosexuality to be upheld in the workplace, and maybe elsewhere too.

I wonder if the LACS will appeal...

Are you saying that should I be of a faith that holds homosexuality as a sin then I could object to working alongside gay colleagues?

Mmmm.... Something of a minefield if so!

 

[upnortheast]

Classic on BBC Look North East last night. Reporter on the street getting punters to sample Greggs new Vegan steak bake
1st 3 Geordies interviewed were very blunt in their replies. .One says, It`s just Greggs trying to keep the leftys happy.

Eventually they found an underfed looking lady who thought it was good