isuzu d max service surprise

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Qman

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Mixed Farmer
Location
Near Derby
Services vary in nature and should naturally vary with the type of work a vehicle does. I don't know of many cars or trucks that require an air, fuel or cabin filter change with every service. Most vehicles have three service levels... intermediate oil change, main service, and a super service where extras like transmission and axle oils plus brake fluid may be specified. There may be other services needed such as timing belts, spark plugs and things on a longer schedule and things like wiper blades, brake pads and lights that need servicing on an as-needed basis.

Personally I tailor services to my judgment. For instance I always give pickups an axle oil change at the first10,000 miles, because mine tow a lot of heavy trailers. I also send it for an oil service every year at MOT, which is approximately between 9000 and 12,000 miles, even though Ford reckon every two years or 18,000 miles is sufficient for normal highway driving. Fuel and air filter every other year.
Fuel filters on tractors are inspected for water regularly but I do tend to extend filter changes as long as I think appropriate, because fuel filters do not have a bypass and therefore the only issue with blocked ones is restricted fuel flow. Tractor air filters are blown out periodically but only changed every five years or so. The only air filters I've changed on farm equipment in the past year have been the two skid steer loaders that had major services [including the hydraulic oil and filters] before this Winter. The filter housing ejector valve was changed on one, because it was damaged and not functioning properly. Services are more than going by the book. Common sense, observation, workmanship and record keeping to avoid missing services comes into it as much as anything, especially if one is responsible for a fleet of any size.

I agree with all of this, but these days garages want to change the brake fluid every 2 years. I think this is over the top, what do you think Cowabunga?

My BMW car says to me that it needs servicing every 2 years, but I change the oil and filter myself in between services using the proper expensive 0W/30 synthetic oil of course!

I take the car to Hughes Bros, a BMW specialist in Derby, they are brilliant, just the opposite to the main dealer.
 

Cowabunga

Member
Location
Ceredigion,Wales
I agree with all of this, but these days garages want to change the brake fluid every 2 years. I think this is over the top, what do you think Cowabunga?

My BMW car says to me that it needs servicing every 2 years, but I change the oil and filter myself in between services using the proper expensive 0W/30 synthetic oil of course!

I take the car to Hughes Bros, a BMW specialist in Derby, they are brilliant, just the opposite to the main dealer.
My experience over many years is that main dealers mostly vary between borderline crooks and incompetent. I've found very few good ones.
 

Cowabunga

Member
Location
Ceredigion,Wales
my mechanic sadly no longer with us ,,,, said " oil and filters are cheaper than bearings ,, I will charge for either its up to you "
While true, there is only a need for adequate and appropriate maintenance. Many people spout the nonsense above almost as if in blackmail, or similar to promising fire and brimstone unless the subject towed the line. I say that because variants of it are repeated by so many people over so many decades that it has become one of the most tiring cliches ever.
Perhaps such dramatics are needed for the simple minded but most reasonable people will service to the book or better these days. Halfwits will never learn.
 
I agree duck , service has to be to a extent to the work the vehicle is doing , and not less that the maker states espiecally with new under warranty vehicles which reading things on the forum seems to be the only way people dare run a new vehicle up to the warranty and get rid ,, glad I not that well off to afford new
 

John

Member
Location
Cambridge
Just sent my 2017 dmax for a 36000 ml service. Wanted to do it myself but they told me you have to plug it in to reset something to do with the fuel and particulate filter or it over fuels and fills sump with fuel. Can’t find anything on the internet about it, are they pulling my leg? Seems crazy you can’t do a basic oil and filter change yourself. Anyone else found this?
 

Cowabunga

Member
Location
Ceredigion,Wales
Just sent my 2017 dmax for a 36000 ml service. Wanted to do it myself but they told me you have to plug it in to reset something to do with the fuel and particulate filter or it over fuels and fills sump with fuel. Can’t find anything on the internet about it, are they pulling my leg? Seems crazy you can’t do a basic oil and filter change yourself. Anyone else found this?
They may want or need to install a software update.
 

Timbo

Member
Location
Gods County
Just sent my 2017 dmax for a 36000 ml service. Wanted to do it myself but they told me you have to plug it in to reset something to do with the fuel and particulate filter or it over fuels and fills sump with fuel. Can’t find anything on the internet about it, are they pulling my leg? Seems crazy you can’t do a basic oil and filter change yourself. Anyone else found this?

Very likely another software update to address dpf regens
 

ricky_rascal

Member
Location
N. Yorks
Just sent my 2017 dmax for a 36000 ml service. Wanted to do it myself but they told me you have to plug it in to reset something to do with the fuel and particulate filter or it over fuels and fills sump with fuel. Can’t find anything on the internet about it, are they pulling my leg? Seems crazy you can’t do a basic oil and filter change yourself. Anyone else found this?

You can do an oil change yourself as I have done with my D-max. You need a friendly garage workshop or your Isuzu dealer to reset the 'oil dilution parameter' (think that's what it's called). It's something to do with the ecu recording the number of dpf regens and estimating how much diesel may be in the oil. What happens if the 'parameter' is not reset I've no idea.
 

Rsockett

Member
Don’t knock it.... had a 2.5l dmax, dealer serviced at correct intervals 140,000 miles in 3 1/2 years never had so much as a warranty claim on it... preventative maintenance worth the cost I think..... sadly changed it for a ranger. 9 months old 35k and the pinion fell out of the rear diff on Friday ?
 

Rsockett

Member
Don’t knock it.... had a 2.5l dmax, dealer serviced at correct intervals 140,000 miles in 3 1/2 years never had so much as a warranty claim on it... preventative maintenance worth the cost I think..... sadly changed it for a ranger. 9 months old 35k and the pinion fell out of the rear diff on Friday ?
 

Dave W

Member
Location
chesterfield
Don’t knock it.... had a 2.5l dmax, dealer serviced at correct intervals 140,000 miles in 3 1/2 years never had so much as a warranty claim on it... preventative maintenance worth the cost I think..... sadly changed it for a ranger. 9 months old 35k and the pinion fell out of the rear diff on Friday ?
Same here. Mines been worked as hard as any and never had bonnet up.
I do believe that hard work is the making of them. Light use is the killer
 

MrNoo

Member
Arable Farmer
Location
Cirencester
Mines just hit 102k and apart from an EGY valve which I did myself it's been fine, get it dealer serviced every other year rightly or wrongly.
 

traineefarmer

Member
Mixed Farmer
Location
Mid Norfolk
What the hell do these multibillion pound companies know about building vehicles that some bloke off the interwebs can't tell me. Who needs million pound testing programmes when I could ask someone in the digital pub?

Sadly the multibillion pound companies entrust the service work to minimum wage teenagers employed by cutthroat regional dealer groups who are way more interested in keeping their salesmen in shiny suits and fake Rolexes than the longevity of your vehicle.
 

ricky_rascal

Member
Location
N. Yorks
Don’t knock it.... had a 2.5l dmax, dealer serviced at correct intervals 140,000 miles in 3 1/2 years never had so much as a warranty claim on it... preventative maintenance worth the cost I think..... sadly changed it for a ranger. 9 months old 35k and the pinion fell out of the rear diff on Friday ?

Had mine serviced by local dealer (York Vans) and although not cheap seem to service it properly, or at least I have no reason to doubt their work. On 2nd D-Max and currently running one of the last 2.5litre models bought in 2017. Recently I've been slightly tempted by a Ranger which is probably silly as my current D-Max has been trouble free. In truth I've been running a D-Max since 2013 and fancied a change :rolleyes: I don't do big miles and quite a few short runs so I sometimes drop the engine oil out and change filter midway between services. There is a new model D-Max coming out sometime and believe it will have the same 1.9litre the current model has. I've demo'd the 1.9 in both auto and manual (not that I want a manual) back in 2017 and wasn't keen at all, hence I bought another 2.5 model.
 

Dave W

Member
Location
chesterfield
Sadly the multibillion pound companies entrust the service work to minimum wage teenagers employed by cutthroat regional dealer groups who are way more interested in keeping their salesmen in shiny suits and fake Rolexes than the longevity of your vehicle.
What a load of rubbish. Isuzu dealer I use couldn't be further from the truth
 

icanshootwell

Member
Location
Ross-on-wye
hi all got a 66 plate dmax for a full service and mot ever since its ran like a dog , anyway found out today that in a full service the fuel filters are not changed unless the light for it comes on . now is it me or does that seem ludicrous i mean if you sent a tractor in for a service you expect the fuel filters done as part of it so why is it different for trucks as serviceing is for reliability surely and not taking it back a month later for a fuel filter
is this a comman thing or are my garage fobbing me off
My last 2 fuel filters i,ve put on didn,t get 10,000 miles out of them, I presume it,s the waxy fuel. So going back to your point, it would be the 1st thing i would change regardless of a stupid light.
 

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