Isuzu D-Max Warranty Issues - Never Again

bumkin

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Mixed Farmer
Location
pembrokeshire
In answer to some of the other posts on here.

Yes it would be good to have the use of another truck if it was of the same level of truck as mine - for example when I put my RR in for any work the dealer always gives me a RR of the same or higher spec than I have

This is is my 2nd Blade and the 1st one went 3 years with only requiring tyres, wiper blades and getting serviced

Very true about the automatic as the one I have on loan is a manual and you are correct the gearbox is crap and reverse is easy to select when looking for 1st - I am getting used to it now after a few scary incidents

Last but not least when you have a vehicle on loan you have to be very careful the dogs etc don't damage anything or the cost is coming back to you where as if its your own vehicle well so be it.
talking of dogs eating the vehicles many years ago we took our landi in for body repairs they lent us an old delivery van as a courtesy car one day after shooting we went to the pub leaving our two young spaniels in the back unfortunately they got through to the front and bloody near ate everything including the indicator stalks after a visit to the scrap yard and a day swapping seats and stuff returned the vehicle when i got back junior said when you left why did you indicate left and turn right ooops(n)
 

Drillman

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Mixed Farmer
One of my neibours has a 1.9 and doesn’t like it at all. It apparently doesn’t pull adequately well. They are disappointed with it.
@Cowabunga surprising comment from someone who tends to champion the modern smaller engines been used nowadays.

And correct me if I’m wrong but you have quoted in the past that you would actively seek out the smaller engine option.

Not a criticism more an observation I will add.
 

Cowabunga

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Location
Ceredigion,Wales
@Cowabunga surprising comment from someone who tends to champion the modern smaller engines been used nowadays.

And correct me if I’m wrong but you have quoted in the past that you would actively seek out the smaller engine option.

Not a criticism more an observation I will add.

No, I wouldn't necessarily seek out the smaller engine option but engines continue to get smaller, or more correctly engines keep getting more powerful, torquey and economical relative to their swept volume.
The comment about Isuzu 1.9 is not mine. I have not driven one. It is that of my neighbour who had a 2.5 before it.

What is surprising is that Isuzu have apparently made yet another stinker of an engine. They have made a habit of it over quite a few years now.
 

Cowabunga

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Location
Ceredigion,Wales
Mine now has 26,000 miles.on it. No issues and pulls well, even with fully loaded trailer. Automatic too, wouldn't go back to manual.
I suspect that like the 2.2 Ford Ranger engine, it is more suited to an automatic gearbox which allows the engine to climb quickly to 1500 revs due to the torque converter.
 

Drillman

Member
Mixed Farmer
I suspect that like the 2.2 Ford Ranger engine, it is more suited to an automatic gearbox which allows the engine to climb quickly to 1500 revs due to the torque converter.
By any chance have you driven or towed with the 3.2 ranger auto?

If so how does it compare to the 2.2?

Personally I find it pretty relentless in the power dept a real slugger of an engine that just pulls but have never driven a 2.2 to compare.
 

Cowabunga

Member
Location
Ceredigion,Wales
By any chance have you driven or towed with the 3.2 ranger auto?

If so how does it compare to the 2.2?

Personally I find it pretty relentless in the power dept a real slugger of an engine that just pulls but have never driven a 2.2 to compare.

Yes. The 3.2 is substantially more powerful. However, 150hp and 350Nm from the 2.2 is more than enough. It is more than the engine made when fitted to Defender. More than enough power and speed to lose one's license. Plenty to tow 3.5 tons on quite steep Welsh coastal roads, up and down the valleys.
Mine is a work truck, the cab covered in dust and full of tools and syringes and marker sprays and tow and tie-down straps. If ultimate performance, handling and refinement were my goal, I would buy something other than a pickup. And indeed I do.
 

D14

Member
I think half the problem with Isuzu is that nobody is actually dealing with Isuzu other than the importer International Motors (IM). So if you had a problem with a Ford for example and the dealer couldn't/wouldn't sort it you could complain directly to Ford UK. With Isuzu you can only get as far as IM who I believe to be the problem as they certainly were with our issue. Isuzu themselves won't hear of any of these issues so IM authorise any warranty jobs and our solicitor suspected that their import deal probably did not have favourable terms with regards to warranties so it ended up with IM carrying some of the cost. They then try it on it appears with every single customer, trying to wiggle out of the cost themselves as all that does is effect their shareholders and bottom line.
As already mentioned we won't ever have another Isuzu again unless Izuzu create a proper UK company themselves.
 

Deutzdx3

Member
No, I wouldn't necessarily seek out the smaller engine option but engines continue to get smaller, or more correctly engines keep getting more powerful, torquey and economical relative to their swept volume.
The comment about Isuzu 1.9 is not mine. I have not driven one. It is that of my neighbour who had a 2.5 before it.

What is surprising is that Isuzu have apparently made yet another stinker of an engine. They have made a habit of it over quite a few years now.

Where as the old 2.8 that was in the fronterra is a great bomb proof engine. You wonder how they can make such rubbish after making some thing so good.
 

Electronic

Member
Location
Wessex
This reminds me of a time when I had a new MF that needed an out of stock part. My helpful friendly dealer simply ordered the same part VOR every day until it created enough demand to trigger supply. After about a week 10 or so arrived, I had one and the others were returned for credit. Parts man seemed to think it was a good way to sort the problem but I'm not sure how MF felt about it....
 

acormack

Member
The dealer I buy my trucks from advised stay well away from the Isuzu, he said you will need the 5 year 125k warranty as it will go wrong. Looks like I'll have to buy one of the dreaded adblue engines, I have a lot of auto mechanic pals and they all advise they are also nothing but trouble, looks like we're screwed no matter which way we go.....
 

H200GT

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Location
NORTH WALES
The dealer I buy my trucks from advised stay well away from the Isuzu, he said you will need the 5 year 125k warranty as it will go wrong. Looks like I'll have to buy one of the dreaded adblue engines, I have a lot of auto mechanic pals and they all advise they are also nothing but trouble, looks like we're screwed no matter which way we go.....

Cant comment on the Isuzu, but my adblue navara been fault less.

Granted its only 14 months old with 30k on the clock, so really wouldn’t expect any different.

Would rather it didn’t have adblue, but so far so good
 

Cluny

Member
Location
Aberfeldy
Anybody out there with the Ecutec chip fitted? I had a 2.5 dmax was delighted with it could pull well good fuel ticked the boxes for me got a really good offer to trade in for a new one so changed for the 1.9 A’s was told it would pull the same and it does but, you have to keep the foot down a lot harder so the fuel consumption is no where near advertised. Was at a different dealer with our Subaru and mentioned to him about my pickup and he said that the ones he sold that were to be doing a lot of towing he fitted the above chip. He handed me a set of keys and said go and try that black one crickey it was scary it is now 195hp and 400Nm torque a different beast all together. Worth a think but it’s £800[emoji853][emoji848]
 

Cluny

Member
Location
Aberfeldy
Yep I get that but if it also improves the mpg as well would it effect emissions and the Ecutec chip is recommended by Isuzu and still keeps full warranty?
 

MrNoo

Member
Arable Farmer
Location
Cirencester
Probably wouldnt meet emissions or to much power for the transmission.
Goes through the MOT fine, fuel use is down and I do a lot of towing, match ploughing tractor/plough to many matches a season on a 14ft Ifor and had no issue at all. Emission stuff just strangles these modern engines.
Always had Isuzu and as said above the old 2.8 tdi engine was great, just pulled and pulled, had 2 troopers that both did over 150k before the tin worm got them.
 

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