Just had pickup in for first service instruction book clearly says use ACEA E6/E9 specification engine oil which is for Heavy duty Diesel engines. main dealer used QUARTS MC3 which is ACEA C3 specification light vehicle use engine oil . doesn’t just sound right to me I am very fussy using the correct oils . Any opinions or thoughts
Isuzu dmax first service
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davidroberts30
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I'm sure mine says 1 oil type on a sticker under the bonnet and a different type in handbook
startinghandle
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Was it main dealer that used incorrect oil or independent garage as you are allowed these days
Cowabunga
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It will be fine. It's a damned good synthetic oil that meets mb229.5[2] which means it meets their highest emissions standards with their longest drain intervals for light duty, fast running engines, which is what the Isuzu's engine is. It is not cheap either and if you have been charged at a litre rate at a main dealer I would not be surprised if cost you around £15/litre + VAT. For the dealer who buys in bulk [maybe 205 litre drums] at a fraction of the price, that means they gross somewhere around £3000/drum. I bet it doesn't cost them much more than £500. Maybe £600+VAT on the very extreme for one barrel at a time.
It would be of interest if you could give us the price per litre they actually charged for it at a service.
It would be of interest if you could give us the price per litre they actually charged for it at a service.
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How much is a service?
If im correct ACEA E6/E9 is SHPD? if so i would expect what the dealer used to be better suited to a small highly stressed diesel in the UK climate. SHPD is usually mineral based and is for larger slower running engines which run for longer periods at a time.
Cowabunga
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The oil they used is an Ultra High Performance oil. For what its worth, so is E6 and E9. A good step above the performance of ones that just meet SHPD which almost all current Diesel engine oils are these days.
out of interest, what makes an oil an shpd? ive got 5 different engine oils i always keep in the workshop but only one is actually labelled shpd
Cowabunga
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The furst SHPD oils were produced in the 1980’s as superior performance long drain interval oils, initially meeting the then D5 performance standard which changed to E2 under a different EU certification board. Times change and you would now find it extremely difficult to find any current diesel engine oil that doesn’t at least meet the next higher standard of E3 or indeed its emissionised equivalent. So virtually all truck and tractor oils are now SHPD judging by the old convention. It is not itself a specific ‘standard’ but more of a general category description. Anything that meets mb228.1 or higher is considered a super high performance diesel oil. This now includes multi-fleet oils which are also suitable for petrol engine use as long as they also meet viscosity and emission standards required, which they probably won’t due to modern petrol and light duty diesels requiring very low viscosity oils these days. Do not use a heavier oil in those because they may use sophisticated oil pumps that will only operate reliably with thin stuff.
Cowabunga
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That is a very fair price. You can work out the mark up on the oil for yourself. It is far less than some brand dealers charge.
Dave W
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Isuzu dealer service charges do seem to be very sensible. Still send mine there even though it's out of warranty
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