Ivermectin , covid cure

[Cowabunga]

You may know they’re more highly qualified to comment than yourself, but you don’t know Jack about my qualifications. Suffice to say I suspect I’m on equals with them with respect to the subject of this thread.

As for not watching this video, damn right I’m not bothered - my viewing time is limited and opinion pieces from amateurs aren’t in the top hundred. I’ve given you my recommendations of videos that might actually enhance your learning - from a recognised and qualified expert in the field of maths who is able to dumb things down to consumer level - will be interesting to read your thoughts.

Yet you bother to reply on this subject but refuse, like Ollie to research or learn about it. Like I said, your view is then worth precisely Jack-all. Don't bother replying further because you have absolutely zero contribution to make worth wasting anyone's time reading.

 

[le bon paysan]

They don't actually give any advice in that video, either about Covid vaccine or Ivermectin. They only analyse and comment on recent events and the evidence. They go out of their way not to advise to be fair, as explained in the first part of the video. Those not interested in that part can skip to the 27th minute. Its long enough from then on but there's another long unrelated section at the end which I skipped. So the part about Ivermectin and the ethics is not too long and certainly not boring for anyone with even a slight interest in what's going on.

Can I ask , are you still taking Ivermectin even though you've had the vaccine? And will you continue after 2 doses?
And if so, why?

 

[Highland Mule]

Yet you bother to reply on this subject but refuse, like Ollie to research or learn about it. Like I said, your view is then worth precisely Jack-all. Don't bother replying further because you have absolutely zero contribution to make worth wasting anyone's time reading.

Happy to read any scientific papers, from peer reviewed and SQEP sources*.

*Thats how proper science publishes things - the real scientists know that YouTube is for entertainment and the likes.

 

[Mr Mackay]

Can I ask , are you still taking Ivermectin even though you've had the vaccine? And will you continue after 2 doses?
And if so, why?

Worms??

 

[Cowabunga]

Happy to read any scientific papers, from peer reviewed and SQEP sources*.

*Thats how proper science publishes things - the real scientists know that YouTube is for entertainment and the likes.

The 'peer review' process and large scale studies are discussed in the video which you refuse to watch. Like I said….

 

[Cowabunga]

Can I ask , are you still taking Ivermectin even though you've had the vaccine? And will you continue after 2 doses?
And if so, why?

Yes, I have continued taking doses at fortnightly intervals more or less. Why? Because it is now proven to be very effective and cheap and for the sort of reason I take statins even though I have not got a particularly high cholesterol level. Because it is very safe. Proven over 45 years and 4 billion human doses to be safer than Paracetamol or aspirin.

Eliminated worms and lice after the first dose.

Once again I have to say that I'm not recommending anyone else use this strategy even though it has proven efficacy and relative safety. Look at the evidence for yourself and don't be stupid robotic donkey's that will not under any circumstances try to learn the actual facts or the probable politics and commercial interests behind not wanting this to work. The people that don't want to know are either plain dumb or are brainwashed or are even corrupt in some way in my opinion. What other explanation could there be for totally closed minds who claim they haven't the time yet find time to come here to troll as if that makes them worthy of the slightest note?

 

[Highland Mule]

The people that don't want to know are either plain dumb or are brainwashed or are even corrupt in some way in my opinion. What other explanation could there be for totally closed minds?

That we have better things to do with our time? As I’ve written before, watching video takes time and that’s not something I have huge amounts of spare. I can read a paper whilst sitting on the sofa with my wife, or multitasking in a work call, but to watch video takes full attention and is antisocial in company.

And whatever you may say, anything medically or scientifically significant will not be solely available on YouTube.

 

[Cowabunga]

That we have better things to do with our time? As I’ve written before, watching video takes time and that’s not something I have huge amounts of spare. I can read a paper whilst sitting on the sofa with my wife, or multitasking in a work call, but to watch video takes full attention and is antisocial in company.

And whatever you may say, anything medically or scientifically significant will not be solely available on YouTube.

Back again. Thought you didn't have time to bother about this subject. Hey Ho!

 

[Highland Mule]

Back again. Thought you didn't have time to bother about this subject. Hey Ho!

That’s the best you can manage?

 

[ollie989898]

If people want to post links to relevant research topics or complete scientific reports or journal articles, particularly those that have been peer-reviewed, I will be happy to OneNote them and read them at a later date.

Youtube is of no interest to me as anyone can post anything on it. Even Russell Brand has a youtube channel.

I'm confused as to why someone would take drugs purely 'because they are safe'. I have no intention of taking a medication for no reason if I am suffering no actual health complaint for the same reason I wouldn't take paracetamol daily or antibiotics daily. I don't even brush my hair daily. The main reason being that I can't be arshed. Quite why anyone would even want to take anthelmintics daily I have no idea either. It makes no sense.

 

[Cowabunga]

That’s the best you can manage?

Since you have plenty of time to read. Read this

(PDF) Ivermectin reduces the risk of death from COVID-19 -a rapid review and meta-analysis in support of the recommendation of the Front Line COVID-19 Critical Care Alliance. (Latest version v1.2 - 6 Jan 2021)

PDF | This is version 1.2 of the ivermectin report dated 6 Jan 2021 | Find, read and cite all the research you need on ResearchGate

www.researchgate.net

 

[Highland Mule]

Since you have plenty of time to read. Read this

(PDF) Ivermectin reduces the risk of death from COVID-19 -a rapid review and meta-analysis in support of the recommendation of the Front Line COVID-19 Critical Care Alliance. (Latest version v1.2 - 6 Jan 2021)

PDF | This is version 1.2 of the ivermectin report dated 6 Jan 2021 | Find, read and cite all the research you need on ResearchGate

www.researchgate.net

You’ve posted that one before. Has it been Peer Reviewed yet? As I recall, the author has an unconventional background and isn’t actually SQEP wrt respiratory matters - fair?

 

[Cowabunga]

You’ve posted that one before. Has it been Peer Reviewed yet? As I recall, the author has an unconventional background and isn’t actually SQEP wrt respiratory matters - fair?

Since you haven't read it you obviously wouldn't know what it is about but you do have time to read it apparently. So why not give it a go? Then you would know first and what it was about.

 

[Highland Mule]

Since you haven't read it you obviously wouldn't know what it is about but you do have time to read it apparently. So why not give it a go? Then you would know first and what it was about.

I read it when it was first shared here. I recall there was a large amount of debate about it back then, mostly centred around the two aspects I mentioned above (neither of which you’ve answered) so perhaps you could use the search function on here and save us all the trouble of going back over old ground?

 

[Cowabunga]

Role of ivermectin in the prevention of SARS-CoV-2 infection among healthcare workers in India: A matched case-control study

Background Ivermectin is one among several potential drugs explored for its therapeutic and preventive role in SARS-CoV-2 infection. The study was aimed to explore the association between ivermectin prophylaxis and the development of SARS-CoV-2 infection among healthcare workers. Methods A...

journals.plos.org

Indian States Turn to Ivermectin in COVID Crisis

Two states give anti-parasitic preventatively to large swaths of population despite warnings

www.medpagetoday.com

Read the comments for the above.


Fact is that none of the big Pharma groups or clinicians initially dedicated to the vaccines want Ivermectin to be efficacious. The reasons big pharmaceutical companies do not wish it to be trialled or used has been explained plenty of times but the initial reason vaccine proponents were dead against it or for the re-purposing of any other medicine was because if there was an alternative treatment or prophylaxis available they would never have had the many billions of government monies to develop and get emergency use licenses for the vaccines. That is where the politics came in and de-facto corruption in a subtle way. These companies and doctors/scientists, for different reasons, didn't and still don't want any re-purposed existing cheap medicines to work. They nip it in the bud even though millions of people worldwide have died needlessly and continue to do so while waiting for their vaccine shots.

Ivermectin is safe, very very cheap and relatively effective. As effective, some claim as some of the least effective vaccines. There is no downside to using it. None. Which is why, based on the evidence of clinicians who have used it with success, especially as a prophylaxis and very early intervention in clinical cases, Many Indian States and other countries are now beginning to officially supply whole populations with Ivermectin, from the old to the young.
It will be very interesting to see how these Indian States distribute it effectively and the results of doing so on millions of people.

 

[Cowabunga]

I read it when it was first shared here. I recall there was a large amount of debate about it back then, mostly centred around the two aspects I mentioned above (neither of which you’ve answered) so perhaps you could use the search function on here and save us all the trouble of going back over old ground?

Read it yourself and use your brain.

 

[Highland Mule]

Read it yourself and use your brain.

You really struggle with the written word, don’t you? Try the first sentence of the post you just cited. Is that why you struggle with things that aren’t in video form?

 

[Cowabunga]

You really struggle with the written word, don’t you? Try the first sentence of the post you just cited. Is that why you struggle with things that aren’t in video form?

I have read it through. Past the first sentence and through the whole lot where the authors express the position of the WHO and others.
Have you? I do not believe so. I think you will find that I am very capable of both understanding and holding my own in the English language.

This is obviously the best you can do. It is both infantile and facile. You absolutely refuse to even read or watch reasoned discussions about the issue while I read and wish to understand all aspects from the black to the white and all shades of grey in-between.

 

[Highland Mule]

I have read it through. Past the first sentence and through the whole lot where the authors express the position of the WHO and others.
Have you? I do not believe so. I think you will find that I am very capable of both understanding and holding my own in the English language.

This is obviously the best you can do. It is both infantile and facile. You absolutely refuse to even read or watch reasoned discussions about the issue while I read and wish to understand all aspects from the black to the white and all shades of grey in-between.

Post 852 & 854 - yes, I read the report, when it first came out. The second of those is the post you quoted of mine above. I also read the author’s bio, her self penned vanity website, the published accounts of her company and many other things about her - including (iirc) the fact that she was no longer practicing medically and had previously been a obstetrician, which has minimal relevance to Covid. All was discussed in this thread when it first came out, alongside the fact that the report had no peer review and hence wasn’t of particularly high scientific standard.

I also asked in post 852 if the paper had been peer reviewed since, and if my assessment of the author was fair - a request repeated in post 854.

Now who’s playing games and being infantile?

 

[Two Tone]

I reckon that if I was living in India right now, I’d certainly be wanting to take some Ivermectin if I hadn’t had any Covid jabs so far.
And probably even if I had too!

Worms??

Might help with the Delhi belly, if nothing else.

I was trying to find a link to a Jethro sketch about eating Indian food that “In’t only hot when it goes in!”
But I can’t find it. However, with Ivermectin being a drug, maybe this sketch will do instead: