Ivermectin , covid cure

Cowabunga

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Sounds good stuff.
Varicose veins, baldness, bad breath, high blood pressure, low blood pressure, Covid, cancer and worms. Hang on, the last one might be true.
Actually there's no reason that it couldn't be effective against several health issues. Thiabendazole and Mebendazole plus the antibiotic Doxicycline are examples of multipurpose drugs. You may have dosed sheep with the first two and jabbed them with the third.
Here is a reference for some compounds including Ivermectin for use in oncology.
 

farenheit

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Well folks, it is nearly the end of August and I am still yet to see any genuinely sound research suggesting ivermectin is useful for covid-19 but we live and learn.

I did see another cochrane meta-analysis/review found no benefit.
Amazed that this thread has run on so long. Like the water divining threads. People will ignore all scientific evidence if it goes against their beliefs!
 
Amazed that this thread has run on so long. Like the water divining threads. People will ignore all scientific evidence if it goes against their beliefs!

Being the peculiar sort I am I found the thread really interesting, but I am not surprised there are so many people here who are ready to believe that ivermectin or other drugs are a secret covid-19 cure and that the world's governments or and big pharma are conspiring to 'hide' the cure- there are literally millions of people out there who believe it, don't trust the vaccine or don't even believe covid is real.
 

Scots_Knight

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Perhaps you'd better read the attached news article before you go taken Ivermectin.


There is a proper UK trial going on at the moment I'll try and dig out the link and post it, the doctor that was speaking about it on the radio didn't think it was going to work very well but they would still look at it as they had with all drugs as they had looked at hydroxychloroquine, which wasn't very effective they found.

These researchers and doctors have spent their whole life looking at this field and to find a cure for a serious illness would delight them as much as we like to help other forum members with an address or a how do I fix this answer.
 

Scots_Knight

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Deranged peasant

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Arable Farmer
2 jabs in Israel not enough to be the mythical fully vaccinated.
Demanding the 3rd
Case numbers through the roof
UK
This August 10x vent patients compared to last August
India
Gone from the news.
Gone back to mass use of ivermectin, collapse in cases, no pharma profits though.
 

robs1

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2 jabs in Israel not enough to be the mythical fully vaccinated.
Demanding the 3rd
Case numbers through the roof
UK
This August 10x vent patients compared to last August
India
Gone from the news.
Gone back to mass use of ivermectin, collapse in cases, no pharma profits though.
Bugger gave the horse wormer I had bought to one of the liveries, perhaps need to buy some more
 

SteveHants

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SteveHants

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What an absolute load of balls! The scare continues. I wonder which pharmaceutical company leaked that garbage to a gullible or corrupt press for even more gullible people to read?
Why would they? Pharmaceutical companies can, and do manufacture ivermectin.
The only people that stand to benefit from the sale of ivermectin are Pharmaceutical companies.
For example: the company that makes Ivomec is a subsidiary of Sanofi that makes human pharmaceuticals.
 

farmerm

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Shropshire
2 jabs in Israel not enough to be the mythical fully vaccinated.
Demanding the 3rd
Case numbers through the roof
UK
This August 10x vent patients compared to last August
India
Gone from the news.
Gone back to mass use of ivermectin, collapse in cases, no pharma profits though.
India 40,000 cases 400 deaths a day, it might have gone from Western news but Covid certainly hasnt gone away there. That being said it is a far cry from the figures in May. I remain skeptical about Ivermectin but it would be interesting to see countries Covid graphs overlaid with Ivermectin prescription numbers. The other useful metric to know would be the proportion of the population who have contracted Cov19... given the scale of India's May wave and the lack of effective measures to restrict transmission its quite possible what we now see in their data now is largely the result of reaching herd immunity and nothing to do with increased use of Ivermectin.
 

Cowabunga

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Why would they? Pharmaceutical companies can, and do manufacture ivermectin.
The only people that stand to benefit from the sale of ivermectin are Pharmaceutical companies.
For example: the company that makes Ivomec is a subsidiary of Sanofi that makes human pharmaceuticals.
Because it costs less than half a UK penny per dose at wholesale. The prospective new Merck drug, projected to cost $750 for a five day course might well work as well or even better than Ivermectin but the first 1.5 million treatments alone, which is already guaranteed by the US authorities alone, will NET them over $1BILLION MORE than the cost of retail Ivermectin. We are not talking about pennies here.
Ivermectin is made by whoever wants to make it. It is a generic drug that is well out of patent and is actually manufactured by at least half a dozen Pharma companies in Asia alone.
India 40,000 cases 400 deaths a day, it might have gone from Western news but Covid certainly hasnt gone away there. That being said it is a far cry from the figures in May. I remain skeptical about Ivermectin but it would be interesting to see countries Covid graphs overlaid with Ivermectin prescription numbers. The other useful metric to know would be the proportion of the population who have contracted Cov19... given the scale of India's May wave and the lack of effective measures to restrict transmission its quite possible what we now see in their data now is largely the result of reaching herd immunity and nothing to do with increased use of Ivermectin.
Here is the situation in India, hot off the press. Despite the universal use of home covid kits for early intervention of infected and contacts using Ivermectin and doxycycline, the WHO completely ignores this intervention and completely omits even the mention of Ivermectin. They just do not want this to be accepted as efficacious or safe under any circumstances, yet they approve other treatments with scant evidence and little or no safety data. Go figure!
 
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farmerm

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Because it costs less than half a UK penny per dose at wholesale. The prospective new Merck drug, projected to cost $750 for a five day course might well work as well or even better than Ivermectin but the first 1.5 million treatments alone, which is already guaranteed by the US authorities alone, will NET them over $1BILLION MORE than the cost of retail Ivermectin. We are not talking about pennies here.
Ivermectin is made by whoever wants to make it. It is a generic drug that is well out of patent and is actually manufactured by at least half a dozen Pharma companies in Asia alone.
I am sorry I just do not buy the argument that governments, healthcare organisations and the WHO around the world are conspiring together to undermine Ivermectin just so a handful of companies likes Merck can make vast sums of money from vaccinations and other on patent treatments. Big pharma cant buy off the entire global health system regardless how much money is involved.
 

Cowabunga

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Ceredigion,Wales
I am sorry I just do not buy the argument that governments, healthcare organisations and the WHO around the world are conspiring together to undermine Ivermectin just so a handful of companies likes Merck can make vast sums of money from vaccinations and other on patent treatments. Big pharma cant buy off the entire global health system regardless how much money is involved.
Buy it or not. Explain then why the WHO and Dr Fauci in the USA are so against it. It has an impeccable safety record over 40 years and 4thousand million human doses, so it does no harm. Yet there is plenty of evidence that is ignored by these people that it has at least some effect as an anti-viral and anti-infammatory. More evidence indeed than some of the chemicals that they have approved and use. They just aren't sitting on the wall about this. They are dead against it. Why?
The evidence from India alone is that it works on a grand scale, yet its use has been blatantly ignored by the WHO report. Why? Someone is pulling strings. They don't and can't point to any significant trials where it doesn't work apart from a very few where the trials were fairly obviously designed for it to fail, and there aren't even many of those.

Let's be clear here. I'm not claiming any degree of efficacy for ivermectin. I just know that the clinicians who do use it claim that it works. They have no incentive for doing so other than to save lives. The WHO is certainly influenced by politics and you can be absolutely sure that the large pharmaceutical companies are lobbying politicians and doctors, as they always do, for the use of their products and for the non-use of rival products. That is what big business does and often does very well. Often to the extent that they use illegal means. Don't be naive enough to think that they don't. It has been proven time and again that they are not to be trusted. An example is Johnson and Johnson, the maker of one of the main vaccines for Covid, that will almost certainly be made bankrupt in the next few months to avoid paying damages to people that have had cancer as a result of using their talcum powder which the company knew decades ago was contaminated with asbestos.

It goes deeper, and shallower than that. My own doctor and his wife freely admits that his annual holidays to really exotic destinations have been paid for by a number of pharmaceutical companies for prescribing a target amount of certain of their drugs. He would say that he would have prescribed them anyway. Of course he would say that, but I can bet anything you like that the holidays were an incentive or they would never have been offered in the first place. They are disguised as 'study tours' or educational conferences.
 
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