Jacob Rees-Mogg

[Muck Spreader]

French farmers had something for dealing with aristocratic MP's from the 19th century.

 

[SRRC]

This makes my blood boil!
No meat should be allowed to be imported into these islands that has not been produced with the same standards that we have to abide by.
Why should we allow imports of antibiotic and hormone laden beef produced on a sickening feedlot. if this does come about I hope that the NFU will try to fight our corner by pointing this out to consumers. Sadly many will just buy on price, and you can be sure that the catering market will lap it up.

Nothing new here, I'm sorry to say. The British pig industry has had to compete with one hand tied behind its back (stalls and tethers) for the best part of 20 years due to unequal legislation, and, it's worth pointing out, that was European legislation.

 

[gatepost]

What's up with Bedfordshire?

They locked up John Bunyan.

 

[Bill & Ben Flowerpot Men]

I too have noticed this fundamental shift in political attitude towards cheaper meat imports from across the pond. I believe this dilemma will only become worse as consumers spending is squeezed. Politicians will be looking at ways to control food costs. Granting US access to our market may be one them.

 

[farmideas]

The future is very concerning because that SFP / BP has become a fixed part of the budget. As Willy says there is little mention of AG at present. I've been chewing over it in my farmideas blog and can see a timetable of events which allow Conservative procrastination over the farm budget. The Comment in a recent Times (May 4) says '" Strong and stable is a silly phrase.. realistic and truthful - now that's something worth voting for." Farmer's leaders seem inclined to repeat their pet phrase about the £7 return on every £1 invested and the £xxx billion industry. Points which lack bite. They need to demand answers about the future after 2020. Say openly that the industry has been receiving £3.5bn for the past decade and more, and this is part of the financial fabric of farming. Demand to know, before the election, exactly what the financial help will be after the cut off. The importance of the industry is a distraction - the question concerns the future.

 

[Ley253]

Met him at a local village show.Almost got him to drive my Fordson "N" round the ring,but wifey (his) said no!

 

[farmideas]

I too have noticed this fundamental shift in political attitude towards cheaper meat imports from across the pond. I believe this dilemma will only become worse as consumers spending is squeezed. Politicians will be looking at ways to control food costs. Granting US access to our market may be one them.

There may be some difficulty in preventing the legal right to cheap imports, but clear descriptive labelling surely has the power to reduce the appeal of these products. Make 'British' mean reared, fettened, slaughtered, processed and packed in the UK. Imports need to be labelled - type size no less than 14pt, with a specified contrast type colour, on the same label as price and/or bar code..... remove all the wriggle room which can so easily go on. And then tell the housewife she has a choice. Added hormones or not.

 

[Bill the Bass]

Nothing new here, I'm sorry to say. The British pig industry has had to compete with one hand tied behind its back (stalls and tethers) for the best part of 20 years due to unequal legislation, and, it's worth pointing out, that was European legislation.

Not true, as I understan, the stalls and tether ban was brought in under UK legislation not EU as the Pig Husbandry Bill 1991, a bill put forward by Sir Richard Body, another pompous Tory prat, sorely out of touch with the real world.

We were shafted by our own - if it was the stall and tether ban you were referring to.

 

[topground]

Jacob Rees Mogg pictured with Peter Rees Mogg born circa 2011 aged 52.

 

[marcusthehat]

Well hi sur iffen ah cud ave bin born aged 52, I could really have enjoyed my adolescence, Iam still playing catch-up so to speak.

 

[Roger Perry]

The hormone issue has been used for decades to keep North American beef out of Europe, based on false science we are told, simply put its an artificial barrier to trade in support of protectionism by Europeans.

Be interesting to see where this leads now that Britain is looking more intently at markets other than Europe.

 

[lazy farmer]

The hormone issue has been used for decades to keep North American beef out of Europe, based on false science we are told, simply put its an artificial barrier to trade in support of protectionism by Europeans.

Be interesting to see where this leads now that Britain is looking more intently at markets other than Europe.

i think its the principle of the process rather than the health effects/benefits that Europe objected to and speaking personally there seems to be a greater interest in how food is produced than at any time in my memory.

 

[JP1]

I too have noticed this fundamental shift in political attitude towards cheaper meat imports from across the pond. I believe this dilemma will only become worse as consumers spending is squeezed. Politicians will be looking at ways to control food costs. Granting US access to our market may be one them.

When the sub goes, what if UK farmers started direct action like the French?

 

[holywell farmer]

I quite like Jacob. He's a very clever chap, but I don't agree with everything that he says. He was on the west country part of The Sunday Politics this morning talking about being able to import cheap beef from the USA after brexit.

Would this be the same beef that is raised using hormones? Don't they wash their chicken meat with chlorine?

I'd rather have coronation chicken.

He is ok. Bit over posh but good at his job

 

[Hilly]

When the sub goes, what if UK farmers started direct action like the French?

Hopefully British farmers have more self respect than to lower themselfs to that.

 

[DeeGee]

When the sub goes, what if UK farmers started direct action like the French?

Would have little or no impact. Farmers would quickly lose any public sympathy by turning up with the usual parade of expensive tractors etc.
The British public basically want cheap food, we have some public support but we don't have anything like the backing and clout that French farmers have with their government.

 

[matthew]

For clout, read votes. (France)

 

[roscoe erf]

Nor do I, but how does the economy pay for it, but there's not much money in the uk pot. Also these farms don't need to go out of business but surely there are savings that can be made in livestock by using genetics and sharing resources do they all need a quad and tractor, when say there are 8 farms in the valley of say 200 acres each =1600 acres and 8tractors and 8quads. Not very efficient

I admire your optimism getting 8 farmers to agree anything I'd love to be a fly on the wall for the meeting to decide which make of quad/tractor or pickup let alone the logistics
P.s can you let me have your suppliers number cause that is some good sh!t your smoking

 

[Muck Spreader]

Would have little or no impact. Farmers would quickly lose any public sympathy by turning up with the usual parade of expensive tractors etc.
The British public basically want cheap food, we have some public support but we don't have anything like the backing and clout that French farmers have with their government.

The French farmers usually have the full backing of the public, although I think this can wear thin on occasions. Additionally they will often support other groups of protesters in reciprocal agreements and the government is usually very weary of annoying the Farmers because of this. However, it will be interesting to see how Macron approaches them, if he gets it wrong there will be plenty of muck in the streets.

 

[gone up the hill]

What type of farming do you do @willy