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Janet Hughes DEFRA Missing in action?
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You said yourself, a few pages back, what ELMS needs to look like to work for your business. If you didn't think that this was solvable, you wouldn't have bothered.
Yet you included LNR in your plans. You are committed to ELMS being got right. (Apologies if I read it wrong) .
One does have to despair listening to George Eustice at Groundswell or Boris PM on the radio yesterday.....
They have evidently been on some sort of indoctrination course and keep repeating to themselves...”when in a hole keep digging.”
They have evidently been on some sort of indoctrination course and keep repeating to themselves...”when in a hole keep digging.”
You joking? They’d be offered counselling and be off work for weeks on full pay.
Tubbylew
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I knew boris had lost the plot when he was dithering on about a high wage economy, and georgie boy has realised that with all his self respect gone he's now cruising to a nice pension and a peerage if he doesn't rock the boat. Sadly lacking to put it mildly. I genuinley feel sorry for the civil servants trying to navigate us through this shambles.
Hindsight
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Thats what I was implying - but so pleased you came out with it straight. I was a civil servant in MAFF decades ago and my wife recently retired from local government - certainly at her local government place some of the stuff written on here would have had the HR department tell staff to refuse to engage and read these boards. Hey ho.
Do they not like facts/knowledge/honest opinion?
They can't handle the truth.
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- Durham, UK
What are we supposed to say yes sir/madam this new scheme is brilliant, praise be to defra.
From what I have read Janet is quite comfortable with the straight talking and wouldn't want folks to hold back. I would guess, however, that she would find the process more useful if there was more by way of what it needs to look like to work for folks businesses rather than incessant bellyaching.
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We needed you at Groundswell on a panel discussion with George Eustace and Janet Hughes.......
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- Derbyshire
....in place of Batters or lined up against her too
matthew
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My personal experience is that the last thing the powers that be want, is a 'discussion' with alternative views thrown around. The decisions are made. And any groups, panels or gatherings involving the lower orders are merely gesture politics. To make you feel needed, important or of value.
You may tinker at the edges, but realistically, you change - nothing.
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That’s because they recruit based on standard skills (ability to write reports, public speak) with a view to teaching the farming/health/education/pensions bit once those people are in the job.
Also, the way promotion works is baffling. It’s done in grades, so say you are a grade 6 in the transport department, you do a standard interview process to grade 5. Then ANY department looking for a grade 5 bids for you. Therefore, that person with no history of Agriculture could end up in charge of ELMS.
same way if Janet was to get a promotion, she could end up in the department for work and pensions, or education.
It breeds a lack of continuity, job ownership and accountability.
Then we wonder why it doesn’t work
Janet came from other departments and was promoted into DEFRA... that is why she has a broader view than those who are full time DEFRA and realises that Treasury actually decide on ELM's not DEFRA
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And her openness has been a breath of fresh air in a very stuffy policy atmosphere.
The right individual in the right place at the right time can drive incredible change (Darwin, Churchill, Rosa Parks etc)