JCB 434/416 opinions

[Speedstar]

For you info jimmy the guy with the broke shovel was in paddy land I thought you would have been on first name terms with every Silage contractor on your side of the water

 

[james ds]

For you info jimmy the guy with the broke shovel was in paddy land I thought you would have been on first name terms with every Silage contractor on your side of the water

How do you make up such rubbish , a demo Volvo in the uk had to be rushed over to Ireland to replace a broken down loader here . That worse that your 29 mpg fendt story which got a total engine rebuild which you described as a service. Your some dreamer .

 

[Speedstar]

How do you make up such rubbish , a demo Volvo in the uk had to be rushed over to Ireland to replace a broken down loader here . That worse that your 29 mpg fendt story which got a total engine rebuild which you described as a service. Your some dreamer .

It was not in the UK , Volvo UK asked us if we would like a go with it as it was a new model with a joystick and 50kph it was in Ireland and was due to come over to the UK

 

[Wellytrack]

It is no secret that JCB 414/416 used to suffer with diff issues. I presume the 434 is built a lot heavier.

Having driven a slew of the things, all of different ages, and 437, I wasn't that impressed.

But what work and what loads. Times have moved on, if you fancy pushing a load of silage up a mountain of a face you will have issues.

 

[james ds]

But what work and what loads. Times have moved on, if you fancy pushing a load of silage up a mountain of a face you will have issues.

The majority of 414 and 416 loaders had their axles opened at 6-8000 hours .

 

[james ds]

It was not in the UK , Volvo UK asked us if we would like a go with it as it was a new model with a joystick and 50kph it was in Ireland and was due to come over to the UK

That’s strange because I never heard of Volvo doing demos here , I enquired looking for a demo and they said that they didn’t do demos because everyone new that Volvo were the best so no need for a demo machine , I said thanks very much good by , komastu landed with a demo machine as did Jcb and Nh , I bought the komastu and it has proved to be a fantastic machine .

 

[ollie989898]

That’s strange because I never heard of Volvo doing demos here , I enquired looking for a demo and they said that they didn’t do demos because everyone new that Volvo were the best so no need for a demo machine , I said thanks very much good by , komastu landed with a demo machine as did Jcb and Nh , I bought the komastu and it has proved to be a fantastic machine .

That is a ridiculous attitude for a company as no one is going to part with money without having sat in and driven the fudging thing.

 

[Speedstar]

That’s strange because I never heard of Volvo doing demos here , I enquired looking for a demo and they said that they didn’t do demos because everyone new that Volvo were the best so no need for a demo machine , I said thanks very much good by , komastu landed with a demo machine as did Jcb and Nh , I bought the komastu and it has proved to be a fantastic machine .

We had a Volvo shovel on demo before we bought our one and they were very happy to demo machines, They were very helpful with everything and if you could have gotten 50kph and a joystick with smooth ride we would have bought one as here was nothing much in the price

 

[james ds]

That is a ridiculous attitude for a company as no one is going to part with money without having sat in and driven the fudging thing.

The Volvo rep called to me , he was dressed as if he was going to a wedding , he refused to sit in the trade in as it might dirty his good suit . I was trading in a hitachi 10 ton digger for a new 13 ton , he went off and I never heard back from him, the komastu rep called , worked my digger , gave me a price to change and phoned every couple of days until I bought the komastu pc130, so when it came to buying a loader I knew which dealer I wanted to deal with. And 6 years on I’ve got great service from the komastu team. So I went back last year and upgraded the loader for the new model.

 

[james ds]

We had a Volvo shovel on demo before we bought our one and they were very happy to demo machines, They were very helpful with everything and if you could have gotten 50kph and a joystick with smooth ride we would have bought one as here was nothing much in the price

They might be your side of the pond but the dealer here is a clown.

 

[mtx.jag]

It depends on the pit size how fast we bring in the grass , the loader determins the output , on the bigger jobs we do 150 acres a day, I have one job of 280 acres and we usually do it in two days

I remember when we used to pick that up.
I suppose that suits smaller farms.
Couldn’t get away with that now
The weather here is so catchy you need to lift over 200ac/day when your dropping 600ac plus on one place.

 

[dave mountain]

Volvo loaders have their Volvo penta engine in I thought?

You can spec them with a joystick, if you want, can even have two 2 sticks if you want, one on the left for steering as well.

Kind of, the Volvo d6/d7 and others are sold both as Penta and just plain Volvo engines but they are all made by deutz

I don’t know why these get so much hate, there has been more grass pushed with JCB than anything else.

I've got nothing at all against JCB, but it definitely wouldn't be my choice for keeping to high hours when there are much more heavy duty construction brands available at similar money, all of which have proven high hour reliability.

 

[james ds]

I remember when we used to pick that up.
I suppose that suits smaller farms.
Couldn’t get away with that now
The weather here is so catchy you need to lift over 200ac/day when your dropping 600ac plus on one place.

Everyone's se up is dfferant, what I do works for me , my average job is 50- 70 acres . That's what's there to be cut and that's what I do, talking about 600 acre jobs is rubbish to me .

 

[mtx.jag]

Everyone's se up is dfferant, what I do works for me , my average job is 50- 70 acres . That's what's there to be cut and that's what I do, talking about 600 acre jobs is rubbish to me .

I bet,no way you could cope

 

[puntabrava]

That is a ridiculous attitude for a company as no one is going to part with money without having sat in and driven the fudging thing.

No, James is something like correct. I rang them in early nineties for a demo, no response from the salesman, I got pisssddd off and rang head office at Cambridge who then got a salesman to ring who said ‘ the machine we demo will be the machine you have and we want a cheque that day’. Think it was 84k for an L70. At least they still had a Volvo engine in back then.

 

[james ds]

Kind of, the Volvo d6/d7 and others are sold both as Penta and just plain Volvo engines but they are all made by deutz



I've got nothing at all against JCB, but it definitely wouldn't be my choice for keeping to high hours when there are much more heavy duty construction brands available at similar money, all of which have proven high hour reliability.

I bet,no way you could cope

I’ll cope with what ever is put in front of me , do you own the outfit you are part off.

 

[james ds]

No, James is something like correct. I rang them in early nineties for a demo, no response from the salesman, I got pisssddd off and rang head office at Cambridge who then got a salesman to ring who said ‘ the machine we demo will be the machine you have and we want a cheque that day’. Think it was 84k for an L70. At least they still had a Volvo engine in back then.

The sales rep who called to me was wearing a pink shirt with white collar and cuffs , he had gold cuff links , was wearing crocodile skin shoes , the hair gelled back, the designer sun glasses sitting on his head , a real cool dood , but a very poor salesman , he would be more suited to selling ladies perfume than diggers.

 

[dave mountain]

Im quite surprised that Deutz keep selling their engines to fendt if it is damaging their reputation as much as it would seem from what you read on here. Been fitted to volvo excavators, loading shovels etc for 20 odd years with minimal problems, and fitted to deutz tractors, gensets, compressors and all manner of other things for much longer than that, and they are letting fendt derail their otherwise very good reputation

 

[mtx.jag]

I’ll cope with what ever is put in front of me , do you own the outfit you are part off.

Hell no,there is no chance in hell I’d have time to run a forager all season with the amount of slurry we spread

 

[marco]

The sales rep who called to me was wearing a pink shirt with white collar and cuffs , he had gold cuff links , was wearing crocodile skin shoes , the hair gelled back, the designer sun glasses sitting on his head , a real cool dood , but a very poor salesman , he would be more suited to selling ladies perfume than diggers.

Are you sure he wasn't selling cheap gates