JCB 434/416 opinions

Niall310

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would you not consider a more industrial quality machine? (volvo cat liebherr case new holland hitachi doosan komatsu etc)

would be the obvious choice to me if you are going to keep to high hours

as ive said before you dont see many JCBs on 30k+ hours
That could be the way to go, aslong as they're not completely dead for climbing a pit.

I'm open to any suggestions of good models or models to stay clear of for komatsu, volvo, NH etc. Likely going to be a 10 year old machine no matter what brand we go.

And dealers IRE or uk which are decent and some second hand stock. Yes I can find dealers on google, but it's good to have some ones opinion of them that may have dealt with them.
 

dave mountain

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Livestock Farmer
That could be the way to go, aslong as they're not completely dead for climbing a pit.

I'm open to any suggestions of good models or models to stay clear of for komatsu, volvo, NH etc. Likely going to be a 10 year old machine no matter what brand we go.

And dealers IRE or uk which are decent and some second hand stock. Yes I can find dealers on google, but it's good to have some ones opinion of them that may have dealt with them.
They won't climb as fast as a S model JCB but this can be compensated by going for a slightly bigger machine and/or a bigger fork. Don't think there's really any to avoid from the mainstream brands
 

james ds

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That could be the way to go, aslong as they're not completely dead for climbing a pit.

I'm open to any suggestions of good models or models to stay clear of for komatsu, volvo, NH etc. Likely going to be a 10 year old machine no matter what brand we go.

And dealers IRE or uk which are decent and some second hand stock. Yes I can find dealers on google, but it's good to have some ones opinion of them that may have dealt with them.
If your going back 10 years , I’d rule out komastu as they have only started building ag spec machines since that. Earlier models hadn’t a big enough radiator and were known to run hot, a Volvo l70 with 10,000 hrs will still be a good buy If it was minded.
 

james ds

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Im quite surprised that Deutz keep selling their engines to fendt if it is damaging their reputation as much as it would seem from what you read on here. Been fitted to volvo excavators, loading shovels etc for 20 odd years with minimal problems, and fitted to deutz tractors, gensets, compressors and all manner of other things for much longer than that, and they are letting fendt derail their otherwise very good reputation
Look at all the used fendt 939 and 936 tractors with 10,000 hrs, most on their second engine.
 

dave mountain

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Livestock Farmer
If you are looking at around 10yo machine for farm work i would consider a doosan DL300-3, then change the tires (and rims if necesary) for ag spec.
They are much more powerful than any similar sized machine, scania 275hp engine.
Would do any farm work with ease so should last near enough forever.
 

dave mountain

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Livestock Farmer

newer than you said, but serious machine for the money. machines like this are often sold and replaced rather than putting a new set of tyres on, so would be a good candidate for swapping to ag tyres. thats very low hours for a loading shovel that size as well
 

Niall310

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If your going back 10 years , I’d rule out komastu as they have only started building ag spec machines since that. Earlier models hadn’t a big enough radiator and were known to run hot, a Volvo l70 with 10,000 hrs will still be a good buy If it was minded.
So what year would a Komatsu be good after, say 2013/14 ?

Yeah L70E or F have been recommended if it was possible to track down one with even 7k hours and then we'll be a few years before hitting the 10k mark but they're like hens teeth.
 

Niall310

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If you are looking at around 10yo machine for farm work i would consider a doosan DL300-3, then change the tires (and rims if necesary) for ag spec.
They are much more powerful than any similar sized machine, scania 275hp engine.
Would do any farm work with ease so should last near enough forever.

Plenty of them in quarries so that's a good sign i guess. It seems good value for money but then I havn't looked too much at other equivalents.
 

Wellytrack

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Know boys who demo’s one of these shod on ag tyres and a fork

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james ds

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So what year would a Komatsu be good after, say 2013/14 ?

Yeah L70E or F have been recommended if it was possible to track down one with even 7k hours and then we'll be a few years before hitting the 10k mark but they're like hens teeth.
The new komastu radiator system with the reverse fan came out in 2016.
 

Wellytrack

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Tiger tanks weren't the best far from it, They weren't even the best German tank.

Engineering wise they where undoubtedly better, faster, more powerful, a gun that had range and power that totally outclassed the Sherman. The biggest problem was they couldn’t make them fast enough or have the spares to keep them going, whereas the Sherman received many upgrades, but remained an albeit lighter and inferior machine but it still ‘won’ as it was banged out in such numbers it’s was proliferation in comparison.
 

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