ollie989898
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Nah, the Tiger wasn't that good. The Panther was the kiddie (once they had ironed out the initial mechanical woes).
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Nah, the Tiger wasn't that good. The Panther was the kiddie (once they had ironed out the initial mechanical woes).
They were too big so had to be stripped down to go on railways and too heavy at 50+ tons for the European bridges. They were undoubtedly well engineered but also very complicated and unreliable the biggest issue was there wasn't enough of them and they cost too much. The Panther was probably a better German tank. The allies had a much better range of tanks and they were also better suited to their jobs. The Sherman also had a gyroscopic gun which I don't think the Tiger had.
Wellytrack
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Okay, Panther then. I knew it was a Panzer and a cat of some sort
Speedstar
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What age was your last shovel & how many hours had it when you put it away ?
Speedstar
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What is wrong with a centurion good old Rolls-Royce V 12 meteor engine
Post second world war so not really my bag. The meteor was a de-rated Merlin so a good engine. For British tanks i'm more of a Cromwell man.
Speedstar
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Have sold a lot of meteor engines , good British motor and still used in the forces today
5 seasons. And it had 4200 hrs going away , I have a 530/70 for doing handy work to keep the hours down on the loader.
Wellytrack
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What else did it do bar push grass?
ollie989898
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Panther!
Bucket work , loading muck and loading peat .
What was your reason for changing? Loads of life left in the old one for sure
I got a good deal to change That I couldn’t refuse , the loader I had before that I kept it too long and it was a big hill to face back up with finance , so basically I had a finance payment of €25 k a year on the 16 reg loader , the finance on the new one is 12k a year for five years , now if I kept the old loader (5 year old) , I’d have no finance for 5 year but I would have to spend €12 k on tyres and risk a break down during silage time , after another 5 years I’d have to go and change and go back up to €25 k a year finance . So I’m happy to have a new machine for €12 k a year . I have the sheargrab on it at the minute , here it is today.
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Speedstar
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So you traded in you JCB and it cost 125k for that shovel 6 years ago ?
Clearly my outlook is different to yours, but I would keep a good machine as long as possible to minimise the actual cost per hour, irrespective of cashflow, but each to their own. I guess you wouldn't need too many breakdowns as a contractor before you start losing customers
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Yes the Jcb was worth very little as secondhand they have few customers , a contractor won’t touch a secondhand Jcb with 7-8000 hrs on it. It was the most expensive loader I ever owned, but I learned my lesson, the komastu are in a differant league of reliability and build quality.
I do that with tractors , but I’ve only one loader so I keep it up in the years , I saved nothing by keeping in longer before , so to have a machine in the yard under 5 year old for €15 per hour worked with no repairs or tyres expence is good value to me.
Wellytrack
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Fair play, it’s a lot of loader.
It’s overkill on some jobs but great comfort, since I bought the Jcb 530/70 for other work I’m keeping the hours down on it. No point loading pallets with it.