JCB Leccy Loadall (525-60E) on-test

[Lakesdigger]

Larger wheels take less power to drive, more torque, just select a better diff ratio. The rolling resistance of a small diameter tyre is greater than a large diameter.

Running on hydrogen, either fuel cell or combustion, is not difficult. Making green hydrogen, compressing it, storing it and holding it on a tank on the tractor is the problem. The CNH methane tractor can only store 4 hours worth of fuel, that is with tanks on the front linkage. Hydrogen is less dense, much more prone to leakage, and a real issue to keep in a tank at a high enough pressure to store a decent quantity of energy. Looking at hydrogen fuel cell cars, they fit hydrogen tanks everywhere they can find a hole.
Getting green hydrogen from electricity through to driving the wheels is about a third efficient as using a battery, so you need three times as much energy. Hydrogen might be a good stop gap, but new battery technologies being worked on at present (solid state for one) will make it obsolete in 10 - 15 years time.

I'm not gonna argue about efficiencies of hydrogen vs battery etc as such. But you mention getting hydrogen from electricity through to driving wheels not being anywhere near as efficient as using a battery. Don't forget you need the electric to charge the battery to begin with and thats where long term i see the issue with batteries. Where is all the leccy going to come from? This is why a clean break from fossil fuels is so difficult to achieve, let's be honest with all the technological advances over the last 100+ years we still can't quite do it and it's because of the flexibility and ease of use.

 

[Lakesdigger]

Personally I reckon for a stock farm they should be great no engine rattling away. Much easier to communicate with anyone else nearby too. Probably not up to buckraking silage but if getting a contractor that wouldn't be an issue.

I bet there's a large number of handlers out there across all industries not just ag which if you worked out the duration of use in a day it's very low and for short spells. Be no problem to take back to plug when not in use.

 

[sjt01]

I bet there's a large number of handlers out there across all industries not just ag which if you worked out the duration of use in a day it's very low and for short spells. Be no problem to take back to plug when not in use.

Our dairy telehandler is a prime candidate - in use all day every day, but averages 2 hours per day on the clock.

 

[Tim G]

I bet there's a large number of handlers out there across all industries not just ag which if you worked out the duration of use in a day it's very low and for short spells. Be no problem to take back to plug when not in use.

Plenty of electric counter balance forklifts about in use.

 

[sjt01]

I'm not gonna argue about efficiencies of hydrogen vs battery etc as such. But you mention getting hydrogen from electricity through to driving wheels not being anywhere near as efficient as using a battery. Don't forget you need the electric to charge the battery to begin with and thats where long term i see the issue with batteries. Where is all the leccy going to come from? This is why a clean break from fossil fuels is so difficult to achieve, let's be honest with all the technological advances over the last 100+ years we still can't quite do it and it's because of the flexibility and ease of use.

If you are going to use green hydrogen, it will have to come from electricity. Blue hydrogen from natural gas, with carbon capture and storage is a fossil fuel company scam and emits more than just using the natural gas straight.

 

[ollie989898]

For the modest amounts of diesel farms use, HVO would be a drop in replacement and is superior in many cases to conventional fuel (cetane number is higher for a start).

 

[holwellcourtfarm]

I bet there's a large number of handlers out there across all industries not just ag which if you worked out the duration of use in a day it's very low and for short spells. Be no problem to take back to plug when not in use.

Our dairy telehandler is a prime candidate - in use all day every day, but averages 2 hours per day on the clock.

That's the problem with farm handlers; their use is just not consistent. Some do 8 hour days 365. Others (ours included) don't even start on 180 days a year or more and often only do an hour in a day but then occasionally work hard for 12 hours a day for a week.

Each user style suits a different power system.

 

[Wigeon]

What is this, some sort of JCB for ants??

well I got it at least!

 

[michael N123]

There are plenty of handlers and skidsteers that never leave concrete filling feeders bedding up mucking out ect where one of these will be perfect

 

[roscoe erf]

Now then everybody. This week (Oct 2021), we are trying out JCB's new electric-powered Loadall, the 525-60E. But before we get stuck into the machine, have you got any questions, or would like to know anything about the machine?
As you can imagine, we've got a shed load of questions with this machine; can it perform, how long does the battery last, how long does it take to charge, what do you need to charge it, the list goes on. So if you've got any questions like that, just let us know and we'll see what we can do. Then as we get stuck into the machine over the next week, we'll try and answer your questions.
The full review video, hopefully with a few questions answered, will then be out in a few weeks time on landpowertv.com
Cheers.

when are you going to do a farmers model

 

[sjt01]

That's the problem with farm handlers; their use is just not consistent. Some do 8 hour days 365. Others (ours included) don't even start on 180 days a year or more and often only do an hour in a day but then occasionally work hard for 12 hours a day for a week.

Each user style suits a different power system.

Certainly would not suit the duty of our 541-70 which can be 10 hours a day on the silage clamp flat out.

 

[Lakesdigger]

There are plenty of handlers and skidsteers that never leave concrete filling feeders bedding up mucking out ect where one of these will be perfect

And a tractor is far lighter on the ground than a handler so tbh handlers are far better kept out of fields if you've a loader tractor as well which many do imho.

 

[br jones]

Hydrogen has to be the better answer for heavy draught machines imho. Ultimately we could have our own on-farm fuelling system using renewable electricity generated on farm to hydrolise water to create our own liquid fuel.

Fuel autonomy. What's not to like?

always said onsite fuel supply ,solar producing hydrogen to run heating and vehicles everyone where possible to be a microgeneration site

 

[LandPowerTV]

Following on from last week's video, where I asked you if you had any questions about the new JCB 525-60E electric-powered Loadall telehandler we were about to test drive, in this little video we answer those questions. Full review video still to come at landpowertv.com

 

[Tomr10]

Without engine noise, are you likely to 'leave the ignition' on and if you do, how much drain does it put on the battery?

How much is a replacement battery and how soon I'm I likely to need one?

Should use almost nothing if just ignition on, will also save many hours of tick over of the clock. Just seen a vid posted not watched it yet however

 

[Wellytrack]

Following on from last week's video, where I asked you if you had any questions about the new JCB 525-60E electric-powered Loadall telehandler we were about to test drive, in this little video we answer those questions. Full review video still to come at landpowertv.com

A good introduction and overview of the machine.

Cheers.

 

[Tomr10]

Has a small battery really, one thing that would be good if it had the app features like most cars. Were you have it pre heat for a certain time

 

[sjt01]

My comment was not on the size of the machine, but on the size of the wheels, with no clearance for littering a straw yard. Did you ground out anywhere?

 

[LandPowerTV]

My comment was not on the size of the machine, but on the size of the wheels, with no clearance for littering a straw yard. Did you ground out anywhere?

For us, we never had any grounding out issues.

 

[jondear]

Does it still have shite black paint on it?