JD 3800 loader good or bad??

[aidan]

are they a manitou wiht a JD engine

 

[Cmoran]

Thanks a lot folks I know not everyone will like every make but I’m satisfied that ye all have fairly good experiences with the 3800. Still waiting on a final price was asked 21500 sterling so doesn’t seem to bad!!

 

[Cmoran]

are they a manitou wiht a JD engine

I’ve been told it’s all ZF running gear and transmission with JD engine

 

[marco]

Get it bought

 

[Timbo]

are they a manitou wiht a JD engine

There's nothing manitou about them.

 

[FG.]

I bought an '06, 3 years ago after a long time looking around.
Later models had a lot of upgrades...Fueling/injection pump, cab roof restyling and ventilation, hydraulics, boom pipework and cast pivot beam, wiring.
Mine was a pig to start in winter... turned out to be the pre-heat not working.
Replaced solenoid down by the battery and it's perfect.
Had same problem with my 6410.
Personally I'd of kept the push/key pre-heat of the 10 series over the 38 'key on, pause,beep,start'

 

[Dman2]

As said above
An electric fuel pump in the line works wonders
Never pause when starting
Just jump on and turn the key

 

[holywell farmer]

For their time they were light yrs ahead of anything else. If she's tidy it wants buying immediately

John Deere need to get back into the loader market

 

[Timbo]

John Deere need to get back into the loader market

They kinda have - bought Kramer.

 

[Cmoran]

What are they like on the road?? Would they be 40k ??

 

[Pheasant Surprise]

They kinda have - bought Kramer.

It’s only a marketing arrangement....sorry “strategic relationship” -> JD sell Kramer Ag spec machines through their dealer network. Think they announced at the time they were investing in some shares in Kramer-Werke, but it was never made public how many. One things for sure though Kramer is still definitely owned/controlled by Wacker Group and not JD.

 

[Dman2]

What are they like on the road?? Would they be 40k ??

Ok on the road, very stable
Ours not quite 40k, but probably should be
5 speed powershift

 

[Timbo]

It’s only a marketing arrangement....sorry “strategic relationship” -> JD sell Kramer Ag spec machines through their dealer network. Think they announced at the time they were investing in some shares in Kramer-Werke,it was never made public how many.

Shall we say "substantial" .

 

[Pheasant Surprise]

Shall we say "substantial" .

What's weird is I can't find any figures (made public anyhow) on the level of investment, so can't say whether its substantial or not. If you look at the JD annual reports from 2017 and 2018 (quick google), Kramer or Wacker Group is not even mentioned once. All their other investments and acquisitions are detailed pretty well.

 

[Cvx1170]

They are Matbro's, then JD sold matbro to Terex

 

[Cmoran]

They are Matbro's, then JD sold matbro to Terex

I thought that age machine was Deere’s own design? I know the older machines weren’t

 

[Cvx1170]

I thought that age machine was Deere’s own design? I know the older machines weren’t

Thats right, Matbro made the older machines. Then JD bought matbro, and built them in Germany themselves, improved the design with more deere parts

 

[Timbo]

And then terex rebranded the older 250-110's with a new cab and even shoddier build quality

 

[Cmoran]

Finally got a chance to drive the 3800 today it’s a lovely straight machine only concern was a humming coming from under your feet when I drove and used hydraulics together not a problem when I was using them separately. Any ideas??

 

[FG.]

The pump is directly under you're feet.
Driven thru a gearbox that take drive to the pump and transmission.