JD 6155r V Fendt 718

daveydiesel1

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Livestock Farmer
Location
Co antrim
Isn't having 4 ranges a benefit not a draw back as it means more of the drive is mechanical and thus increase efficiency , my little 4cyl autopower drops to 1600revs on the road and cannot feel the range changes at all .
It also means doin certain jobs where your at the range change point when you hit tougher or lighter goin youl be changin range all the time needlessly creatin wear
 

hally

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Livestock Farmer
Location
cumbria
Set a max speed in range 1 using the little dial on the stick so that when the stick is at the front of the dog leg range 1 it will be at 14k
Ahh thanks for that, if it comes to a steep bit does it have the ability to up the revs automatically or do you need to increase it manually on th throttle?
 

Speedstar

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Location
Scottish Borders
I know this will open a can of worms !!Thinking of replacing Destoner / Harvester tractor . Have been JD for a while but got a quote from Fendt as well . Surprised how close on price they are on paper . What are peoples experience of fuel consumption an do you go on rated hp or max ? Servicing cost seem high on a Fendt ?? Any other thoughts on comparison ? Thanks
The fendt will be cheaper if spec the same as the Deere with auto steering and the fendt will be worth more at the end of the day and will be cheaper to run and can be bought with a 8000 hour warranty soon to be a 10,000 warranty
 

KB6930

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Location
Borders
Ahh thanks for that, if it comes to a steep bit does it have the ability to up the revs automatically or do you need to increase it manually on th throttle?
It won't up the revs if you've set a max revs through the command centre. Autopower is not meant to be driven by setting the hand throttle at say halfway to get 1500 revs you're meant to have it at max and either let it sort out what it wants to use or restrict the revs back in the command centre you can set a max revs on a button on the side of the hand throttle so if you needed extra you could just switch it off and it would rev up to what it wants then press it again it'll go back to what you had set . You'll find that it'll pull fine at low revs but will spin it's wheels with higher revs
 
Well a jd has ranges which change automatically when accelerating/decellarating where as fendt has field range and road range and once your in either range its totally hydrstatic from 0-top speed thus its a true vario whereas a jd on the road will start in range 1 and work its way up as your speed increases and down as speed drops. Mabe on the new 1s this isnt noticable but on the older 1s ye could tell when she changed range
Sorry to question your expertise but you're not quite correct here. Fendt indeed has two, selectable ranges and are known to have issues with overheating when users don't change from road to field for heavy draft applications. Fendt is not totally hydrostatic from 0 to max speed. Indeed at low speed operations say at 5kph, the Fendt is about 95% hydrostatic and 5% mechanical drive. This compares to a ZF derived transmission which is 95% mechanical and 5% hydro at the same speed. The thinking being that a higher proportion of mechanical drive is more efficient in transferring power, so the for ranges seen on ZF units helps keep that mechanical proportion high. By contrast at high speed, say 50kph, the Fendt will be 95% mechanical and 5% hydro, wheresas the ZF -derived units will be about 50:50
 

Claasman

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The fendt will be cheaper if spec the same as the Deere with auto steering and the fendt will be worth more at the end of the day and will be cheaper to run and can be bought with a 8000 hour warranty soon to be a 10,000 warranty
How much does 8000 hour warranty cost?
 

Gerbert

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Location
Dutch biblebelt
It seems a bit arbitrary to call the fendt a "true vario" and the others not. You might as well call them half a vario as the reverse is hydrostatic. And the 1000 series and newest 900 only a quarter as the front wheel drive is also purely hydrostatic.
And having a range change that you have to get to a halt, call them unsynchronized? (Yeah I know that you don't need to get to a halt perfectly).
That said, both fendt and JD have well proven transmissions so it'll be fine. Take a look now on what used fendts and JD's are worth and make a choice.
I know the smaller 700's are quite heavy for their power, but that might be the case just as much for the JD, I don't know.
 

Galcam

Member
Kilpeck James make sure your comparing similarly equipped tractors. Both makes are as good as it gets and it will be down to personal preference more so than price. Your looking at new so an extra few k is not going to be a issue but make sure the spec is correct. If going JD get the ultimate model with command pro and dual screens etc
 

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