JD 6630 Stanadyne alternative

[kevindb880]

Anyone on here find they have to use a fuel additive every now and then to keep the engine running sweet?
We have a JD6630 and we find as I did yesterday that if it does a lot of light work which it has done such as hedge cutting last winter, top dressing and a bit of mowing ect that it will run roughly, smoke and as I found yesterday when I dropped the plough in the ground it was very sluggish pulling away!
Previously we have given it a dose of Stanadyne fuel additive which cures it and I will do when back at work Tuesday but i just wondered if anyone is using anything different as it is quite expensive?

 

[Simon Chiles]

Anyone on here find they have to use a fuel additive every now and then to keep the engine running sweet?
We have a JD6630 and we find as I did yesterday that if it does a lot of light work which it has done such as hedge cutting last winter, top dressing and a bit of mowing ect that it will run roughly, smoke and as I found yesterday when I dropped the plough in the ground it was very sluggish pulling away!
Previously we have given it a dose of Stanadyne fuel additive which cures it and I will do when back at work Tuesday but i just wondered if anyone is using anything different as it is quite expensive?

John Deere fuel protect. Same money as Stanadyne but you use it at 1 litre per 1000 instead of 2 so effectively it works out 1/2 the price.

 

[lexion780tt]

Normaly put cup full of clean engine oil with every fill up keeps pump and injectors lubed up low sulfur fuel lacks lubricant

 

[kevindb880]

Is it ok to put a cup full of engine oil in a common rail engine let alone a EGR, DPF ect equipped one?

 

[milkloss]

I put some John Deere stuff in our 6920 and it shat it’s head gasket shortly afterwards. Probably cleaned the k seal out of the fail and started blowing!!!.

 

[lexion780tt]

The small amount diluted down won't hurt as long as you put the engine oil suitable for dpf engine's will be fine a small amout of oil is burnt in combustion anyway hence why you need the right oil for engines with dpf for old girls any engine oil will do

 

[Pheasant Surprise]

What’s the point of putting engine oil (or any oil for that matter) into the diesel going into a common rail engine?

You just increase the likehood of clogging the (much finer) multiple hole injectors and adding a ton of ash to the DPF and poisoning any catalyst lining in the SCR and/or DOC where they are used in lieu of a DPF.

Another case of using ‘helpful’ hints from the era of mechanical injection injection that can cause more harm than good in modern engines.

 

[lexion780tt]

I think a mug full of oil in over 300 litres is not going put a ton of ash in dpf! Standyne is only a cetane booster and lubricant.

Oil is naturally burnt in cylinders hence why you have oil for dpf engine's and add blue as long as putting this oil in fuel no harm will come.

What is your level of technical experience pheasant suprise

 

[bill and bens dad]

morris oils shrewsbury ,make a similar product called Morendo DD,about £99 ish for 25 litres,from memory

 

[Timbo]

Is it ok to put a cup full of engine oil in a common rail engine let alone a EGR, DPF ect equipped one?

Low SAPS oil be grand

 

[ih1455xl]

Anyone on here find they have to use a fuel additive every now and then to keep the engine running sweet?
We have a JD6630 and we find as I did yesterday that if it does a lot of light work which it has done such as hedge cutting last winter, top dressing and a bit of mowing ect that it will run roughly, smoke and as I found yesterday when I dropped the plough in the ground it was very sluggish pulling away!
Previously we have given it a dose of Stanadyne fuel additive which cures it and I will do when back at work Tuesday but i just wondered if anyone is using anything different as it is quite expensive?

What spec diesel are you using is im guessing it's not EN590

 

[Pheasant Surprise]

I think a mug full of oil in over 300 litres is not going put a ton of ash in dpf! Standyne is only a cetane booster and lubricant.

Oil is naturally burnt in cylinders hence why you have oil for dpf engine's and add blue as long as putting this oil in fuel no harm will come.

What is your level of technical experience pheasant suprise

That’s a lot of oil. If a modern engine was burning a litre of oil in a day, then you’d suspect there’s something wrong with it. So why add it exactly?

It’s not going to help the injectors. Not going to help the high pressure pump. Not going to help the valve stems or seats.

Do you know any manufacturer that tell you to pour a litre of oil in with every tank full of fuel. It sounds completely mad.

 

[lexion780tt]

No I've worked on a kit for 20 years manufactured will not recommended aby thing they will happily sell you the parts

John deere only recommended it as the d10 pumps were so poor and if you wernt running en90 would boost cetain rating

If your worried about a little oil on the valves have you seen the damaged egr dose to the inside of a engine?

Oil lubricates the spools sleeves and injector needles as new disel attracts more water get more wear on injection systems now due to lack of lubricant

 

[kevindb880]

What spec diesel are you using is im guessing it's not EN590

Pretty sure it is EN590

 

[kevindb880]

Is anyone using a fuel additive such as Stanadyne routinely or is it something you shouldn’t need to do if you’re fuel is EN590?

 

[Pheasant Surprise]

Is anyone using a fuel additive such as Stanadyne routinely or is it something you shouldn’t need to do if you’re fuel is EN590?

Yes. Claas dealers tend to have the cheapest prices for Standayne in bulk cans. Last time I checked it was £384 for 25 litres.

 

[deleted user 837354]

Yes. Claas dealers tend to have the cheapest prices for Standayne in bulk cans. Last time I checked it was £384 for 25 litres.

What the heck is in this fuel additive? Kryptonite?!

 

[Pheasant Surprise]

No I've worked on a kit for 20 years manufactured will not recommended aby thing they will happily sell you the parts

John deere only recommended it as the d10 pumps were so poor and if you wernt running en90 would boost cetain rating

If your worried about a little oil on the valves have you seen the damaged egr dose to the inside of a engine?

Oil lubricates the spools sleeves and injector needles as new disel attracts more water get more wear on injection systems now due to lack of lubricant

I just don’t see it as all necessary - that is to add engine oil to a common rail engine to make up for a perceived lack of lubricity.

Engines and injectors are designed purposely for low sulphur fuel.

No one bothers sticking oil into the fuel of their diesel cars or trucks so why should tractors and combines be any different?

 

[Pheasant Surprise]

What the heck is in this fuel additive? Kryptonite?!

Works out at 3ppl