Jeremy Clarksons new TV show

Roy_H

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Lamborghini Trattori is a completely different company to Lamborghini cars, the car production is owned by Audi. Lamborghini Trattori was purchased by SAME in 1973 from Ferruccio Lamborghini after he got into an argument about the clutch on his Ferrari 250 with Enzo Ferrari, so he decided to build his own cars.
I heard that Enzo told Ferruccio to stick to making tractors unless of course he thought he could build a better car. The rest, as they say, is history.
 

Roy_H

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i think hes great,

As i understand he has humble beggings in Doncaster i believe 'silver spoon in his arse' seems extremely unfair...

He talks straight and people listen, and a hell of alot of influence/power to get message to the general public, if he makes a program people will watch (i await a keyboard warrior to point out they wont be watching ;))

No one else is standing up to support farming at the moment, if he is crack on!
I live in The town where Jeremy Clarkson grew up, Tickhill, near Doncaster .
 

Steevo

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Location
Gloucestershire
I doubt it, but will show what needs to be done to a lot of people to potentially make enough profit to live on a farm, much of which really isn't farming at the end of the day, unless you class it as farming people via celebrity.

Exactly this. I'm pleased he's raising the profile of farming across the board and bringing it to a wider audience. I hope he keeps up his campaigning of highlighting how farming is treated by the wider world. But his diversifications do concern me slightly:

a) getting rid of the "sheeps", replacing them with cows - it's not for me to question this at all, but dipping in and out of farming isn't something many farmers do.
b) but then to follow this by putting in planning to convert the barn he got under prior notification just 2 years ago into a restaurant on the basis "i can't make money on the cows if i cannot sell direct" grated with me rather. If he put in for proper full planning for a proper building that would have been the "correct" way without playing the system.
c) making lager because the price of barley is pittance but the price the brewer pays for malt is 3x more is logical but not an option open to all farmers
d) farm shop "why don't more farmers do this?" again it's more his celeb status than a farm shop.

His profile allows him to achive things much much easier than any "normal" farmer. Not just that people will buy his goods just for the sake of it, but also because he has money to plough into these things in the first place. i.e. he can afford to take a punt on it, and also know that the odds are stacked better towards success than for other farmers

As I said I hope he keeps shouting about the wider matter of farming that he says he really cares about and loves, rather than just focusing on making a potential quick buck by playing the system for his own benefit.

All of the above said.....I'd still think I prefer to have his voice shouting for UK farming and showing a bit more of the realities of farming than we see from Adam Henson.
 

bluebell

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farmers shouldnt have to not only grow, produce, a product, such as milk but also have to retail it as well just to make a liveing? ask the growing band of people who work in many forms for the govt you got to do alot more work for the same money? Many now are now working from home? got that now established ? so are actually far better off both in time and money?
 

Ffermer Bach

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Livestock Farmer
farmers shouldnt have to not only grow, produce, a product, such as milk but also have to retail it as well just to make a liveing? ask the growing band of people who work in many forms for the govt you got to do alot more work for the same money? Many now are now working from home? got that now established ? so are actually far better off both in time and money?
if people work from home there should be a minus weighting to the salary (almost like the London weighting but in reverse), savings in travel costs and time of commuting.
 

JimAndy

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Mixed Farmer
if people work from home there should be a minus weighting to the salary (almost like the London weighting but in reverse), savings in travel costs and time of commuting.
in that case. if i live 50 miles further away that my co worker should i get paid more as i have bigger travel costs' and commute, even tho we both do the same work ?
 

Roy_H

Member
Exactly this. I'm pleased he's raising the profile of farming across the board and bringing it to a wider audience. I hope he keeps up his campaigning of highlighting how farming is treated by the wider world. But his diversifications do concern me slightly:

a) getting rid of the "sheeps", replacing them with cows - it's not for me to question this at all, but dipping in and out of farming isn't something many farmers do.
b) but then to follow this by putting in planning to convert the barn he got under prior notification just 2 years ago into a restaurant on the basis "i can't make money on the cows if i cannot sell direct" grated with me rather. If he put in for proper full planning for a proper building that would have been the "correct" way without playing the system.
c) making lager because the price of barley is pittance but the price the brewer pays for malt is 3x more is logical but not an option open to all farmers
d) farm shop "why don't more farmers do this?" again it's more his celeb status than a farm shop.

His profile allows him to achive things much much easier than any "normal" farmer. Not just that people will buy his goods just for the sake of it, but also because he has money to plough into these things in the first place. i.e. he can afford to take a punt on it, and also know that the odds are stacked better towards success than for other farmers

As I said I hope he keeps shouting about the wider matter of farming that he says he really cares about and loves, rather than just focusing on making a potential quick buck by playing the system for his own benefit.

All of the above said.....I'd still think I prefer to have his voice shouting for UK farming and showing a bit more of the realities of farming than we see from Adam Henson. I thought he was mechani
I am reading his excellent and very funny book "Diddly Squat" at the moment (As a writer about farming I think he could be the new Henry Brewis to be honest with you) but I did wince a bit when he is talking about the combine offloading into the grain trailer, saying that its a big fan that blows the grain up a long tube and into the trailer :facepalm:
 
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penntor

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Livestock Farmer
Location
sw devon
if people work from home there should be a minus weighting to the salary (almost like the London weighting but in reverse), savings in travel costs and time of commuting.
If working from home they should be paid an allowance for the electric, internet, heat etc. that they use. Also possibly receive rent for the office space. After all, they are providing all this now, not the company they work for and possibly also having to provide their own desk and chair as well.
Their are also HSE implications as well such as Display Screen Equipment regs. etc.
 
if people work from home there should be a minus weighting to the salary (almost like the London weighting but in reverse), savings in travel costs and time of commuting.

There's also the converse argument that people working from home should be paid more - because they save their employer money. If half the staff in a 100-employee office work from home, employer needs an office half the size :)
 
There's also the converse argument that people working from home should be paid more - because they save their employer money. If half the staff in a 100-employee office work from home, employer needs an office half the size :)
On the contrary, office desks have been moved apart in big offices now so they need double the space / desk, or thereabouts.

i would not want to be a landlord to some of the these massive inner city office books now!
 

BBC

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Location
Gloucestershire
Would appear that not only has he launched his own beer using his own barley, but he has actually bought the Cotswold Brewery who make it!

Interesting that all the press reports have picked up on the disparity in what he says he as a farmer is paid for malting barley (£205) and what the brewery pays for the end product (£580) and what the maltsters do in a process that he says ‘could be done with a couple of decent hairdryers’ to justify the £375 difference.
 

Steevo

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Location
Gloucestershire
Would appear that not only has he launched his own beer using his own barley, but he has actually bought the Cotswold Brewery who make it!

Interesting that all the press reports have picked up on the disparity in what he says he as a farmer is paid for malting barley (£205) and what the brewery pays for the end product (£580) and what the maltsters do in a process that he says ‘could be done with a couple of decent hairdryers’ to justify the £375 difference.

The questions is how many tonnes of barley does it take to create 1t of malted barley.....and what moisture is each.
 

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