Jeremy Corbyn....

Sorry if this in the wrong place, but it has to be said, seriously now, someone please explain to me what planet this bloke and Mcdonnell are on?

No Trident renewal, 250 billion extra spending (yeah because spending worked so well last time), nationalise the railways again (another raging success if history is anything to go by) and so on.

Banging your gums about globalisation is all well and good but trade puts money in people's pockets and food on the table, it is as simple as that.

Corbyn openly stated he wanted to revert to the country as it was in the 1970's.

I wasn't even alive then, an neither were a lot of the Labour voters and apparent fan club, the difference is however that I recognise that the country was in dark times in the 60's and 70's, which should not be repeated in any way shape or form. Your average Corbyn supporter today is about 19 years old, has no clue about anything whatsoever, if they have ever had a job (doubtful) at all, much less any real life experience. This is the kind of muppet we have directing the destiny of the opposition.

Sad times, we have no effective opposition to the government and I feel that many of the sound Labour MPs who have done sterling service and public servants will now be marginalised or forced to conform to this new socialist nonsense which benefits no one.

The sooner the SNP end this charade and make Labour unelectable forever the better.
 

Jamer

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Glos
Corbyn doesn't bother me so much, - he's just an ideological dreamer with that way of appearing intellectually superior that Tony Benn always deluded himself with, which takes no account of human nature.

John McDonnell on the other hand scares the sh1t out of me. He reminds me of a left wing Norman Tebbit, - all barely contained sneering rage in a disingenuous smile.
 

Danllan

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Sir Gar / Carms
I lived through the seventies and wouldn't want that again.
Now if we'd only had Enoch Powell as PM rather than that inaffective stroker Edward Heath how it would have changed!

Quite right, it would be a difficult thing to choose between Heath or Blair as being the worst PM this country has had.

As for Jeremy Corbyn, long may he reign! I can't think of anyone more likely to keep Labour out of government for a protracted period. Yet, I do agree that it is a poor show for our democracy, his shadow cabinet is appalling and demonstrates what a Corbyn administration would look like - I find it very, very hard to decide which of them is the most ridiculous. I have reluctantly concluded that it is a tie between the dishonest hypocrite Diane Abbott and the utterly stupid and unpleasant Emily Thornberry, but I can't decide between them... :scratchhead:.

On the plus side, we are being shown what these loony lefties think we will see as their acceptable side. What they don't seem to realise is that we all know this and recognise that, if they were ever to govern, the policies they really would implement would be even more barking! As I wrote earlier, long may Jeremy Corbyn reign...:).
 
I personally don't like Corbyn and frankly want Labour en mass to be dropped in an active volcano ...

However I think Corbyn does have some points which will score very well with most people. For example housing.

Re-nationalisation of various services & industries would be OK ... if it was actually run for and by the public ... I'd like to also point out that a number of these companies are owned by Foreign Nation states for example EDF is French state owned. However IMHO this is just a means to get the country more under control of the Unions.

Trident, HS1 & 2, Nuclear Power ... we can't actually afford these IMHO. Just being done so the "right people" have money and you & me don't.

Labour has to retake Scotland ... then it stands a chance getting elected. Once the SNP is destroyed they can alter policies, if required by then, to fudge the General Election.

There isn't a good Labour MP IMHO and a lot of their "service" has been to disadvantage a very large number of ethnic UK citizens to the advantage of "immigrants". Top that off with the Iraq & Afghanistan wars - I hope they rot in hell - if I can do anything to help in that endeavour then I certainly will.
 

topground

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I don't think Corbyn has graduated beyond the student politics of his youth where he wouldn't have been faced with having to take responsibility for any of the policies he advocated.
Every time I see him on TV I am reminded of an older Wolfie Smith, only a matter of time before he comes out with the 'Power to the people' line!
 
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Danllan

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Sir Gar / Carms
Someone I meant to mention - but whose name escaped me - is Seumas Milne... he is Jeremy Corbyn's top 'aide', and a bigger pr*tt you will never, ever come across. I defy anyone to find a positive and politically credible thing about him. It's brilliant, and team-Corbyn have him as 'Communications Director'! Read anything he has written on any political subject and you'll come away with the idea that he is actually a Tory plant doing his best to make Labour unelectable; but the truth is, he really believes it, and really believes he is a catalyst for 'The Revolution...' great days...
 

S J H

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Bedfordshire
I think a lot of Tory voters joined the Labour Party to vote for Corbyn.he has as much chance of being pm as @mtx hound
Nick...

Heard on the radio earlier that based on Owen smiths' votes, he'd of one the last leadership election.

I've got a lot of respect for Corbyn, even though I don't agree with any of his views, I think he'll chime with a lot of young and non voters, and anyone disillusioned with Westminster politics.
 
Well i quite like corbyn, you know what he stands for, unlike bliar, brown, and cameron.
And the seventies were bloody good, barley at £100 /ton, spuds at £300
lager 25p/pint, petrol 50p a GALLON.
NO computers
pubs were buzzing
north sea oil
T rex
oh fudge

I was 16 in 1960 and I too thought the 60s and 70s were a brilliant time to be growing up and being a young adult (even allowing for strikes and 3 day weeks) - until the bitter 1978/9 winter caused me to move to Australia.
 

DrWazzock

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Lincolnshire
The 1970s. I remember getting 12.5% on my national savings account while inflation was something like 22%.
When I started school in 1974, I remember crisps were 3p a bag in the tuck shop and there were more crisps in a bag. By the time I left school crisps were 20 p a bag but bulk potatoes were cheaper than when I started school.
 

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