Jeremy Corbyn....

SRRC

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West Somerset
funny how the german banks struggling is more of a problem for pound than the euro.....bit of a 'financial house of cards' our economy?
It isn't more of a problem for the pound than the euro. It's a huge problem for the euro and we are likely to get caught in the crossfire, so it becomes our problem too. After all Europe is a major trading partner and if they are in recession it will hit us.
At least we are starting from a better position, very low unemployment and acceptable growth of incomes and the economy.
It will be hugely damaging to the political elites (as is Brexit) as the euro project of greater integration will be mortally wounded.

JC probably agrees with you.
I'm flattered!
 

spin cycle

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north norfolk
It isn't more of a problem for the pound than the euro. It's a huge problem for the euro and we are likely to get caught in the crossfire, so it becomes our problem too. After all Europe is a major trading partner and if they are in recession it will hit us.
At least we are starting from a better position, very low unemployment and acceptable growth of incomes and the economy.
It will be hugely damaging to the political elites (as is Brexit) as the euro project of greater integration will be mortally wounded.


I'm flattered!

not what the markets are saying
 

Muck Spreader

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Livestock Farmer
Location
Limousin
Sustainability is the keyword. Britain has addressed financial sustainability. Europe has swept it under the carpet, but it's coming home to roost.

BRexit is a sideshow. You ain't seen nothing yet.

That's the price we pay for being the major financial centre. All the world's mismanagement will ultimately end up at our door.
 

spin cycle

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north norfolk
Sustainability is the keyword. Britain has addressed financial sustainability. Europe has swept it under the carpet, but it's coming home to roost.

BRexit is a sideshow. You ain't seen nothing yet.

really:scratchhead:....i reckon our debt % gdp will soon be on a par....we have just seen the abandonment of osbournes efforts ......our economy is to skewed towards services and 'importing capital' .....cafe coffee drunk will soon be an economic indicator:banghead:
 
Sorry if this in the wrong place, but it has to be said, seriously now, someone please explain to me what planet this bloke and Mcdonnell are on?

No Trident renewal, 250 billion extra spending (yeah because spending worked so well last time), nationalise the railways again (another raging success if history is anything to go by) and so on.

Banging your gums about globalisation is all well and good but trade puts money in people's pockets and food on the table, it is as simple as that.

Corbyn openly stated he wanted to revert to the country as it was in the 1970's.

I wasn't even alive then, an neither were a lot of the Labour voters and apparent fan club, the difference is however that I recognise that the country was in dark times in the 60's and 70's, which should not be repeated in any way shape or form. Your average Corbyn supporter today is about 19 years old, has no clue about anything whatsoever, if they have ever had a job (doubtful) at all, much less any real life experience. This is the kind of muppet we have directing the destiny of the opposition.

Sad times, we have no effective opposition to the government and I feel that many of the sound Labour MPs who have done sterling service and public servants will now be marginalised or forced to conform to this new socialist nonsense which benefits no one.

The sooner the SNP end this charade and make Labour unelectable forever the better.
Corbin is killing labour
 

Danllan

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Sir Gar / Carms
But they won't get in to power, they just won't. Labour is now an irrelevant side-show, Scotland did them serious damage, Miliband put the boot in and now Jeremy Corbyn has kicked the a*se out of them in no uncertain terms.

Yes, some people will now vote Labour who, otherwise, would have voted elsewhere or abstained but... overwhelmingly, these are people who are hard-left Socialist Worker readers, wannabe Anarchists and eco-nutters who think the Green Party is great but won't govern. And there just aren't enough of them to swing an election, nowhere near enough and, anyway, for these 'new' supporters to have any effect, all of them would have to turn up and vote and all of those who left Labour at the last election would have to come back to them again...

Jeremy Corbyn is undoubtedly popular within the current Labour party, but this is like the old story about the book Abraham Lincoln was asked to commend, he wrote 'People who like this sort of book will find this the sort of book they like.' Corbyn is the same, of course he has huge support inside Labour, a fair number of them were hard left anyway and all of the recent joiners are, so no surprise. But so what? They don't come anywhere near to a representative sample of the British electorate so his intra-party popularity means... nothing.

It just isn't going to happen and I'll be happy for a wager with anyone about this; Labour under Jeremy Corbyn - or any other hard lefty - will not be elected as a party of government.
 
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But they won't get in to power, they just won't. Labour is now an irrelevant side-show, Scotland did them serious damage, Miliband put the boot in and now Jeremy Corbyn has kicked the a*se out of them in no uncertain terms.

Yes, some people will now vote Labour who, otherwise, would have voted elsewhere or abstained but... overwhelmingly, these are people who are hard-left Socialist Worker readers, wannabe Anarchists and eco-nutters who think the Green Party is great but won't govern. And there just aren't enough of them to swing an election, nowhere near enough and, anyway, for these 'new' supporters to have any effect, all of them would have to turn up and vote and all of those who left Labour at the last election would have to come back to them again...

Jeremy Corbyn is undoubtedly popular within the current Labour party, but this is like the old story about the book Abraham Lincoln was asked to commend, he wrote 'People who like this sort of book will find this the sort of book they like.' Corbyn is the same, of course he has huge support inside Labour, a fair number of them were hard left anyway and all of the recent joiners are, so no surprise. But so what? They don't come anywhere near to a representative sample of the British electorate so his intra-party popularity means... nothing.

It just isn't going to happen and I'll be happy for a wager with anyone about this; Labour under Jeremy Corbyn - or any other hard lefty - will not be elected as a party of government.
Lol, bang on the money, imo:D
 

SRRC

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Location
West Somerset
Steady there! In the political world eventually things change that we all thought would be there forever. In recent times who predicted that the Conservatives would be wiped out and Labour in power for 13 years with a majority of 179? Who predicted that in turn they would be wiped out in Scotland?
It does seem highly unlikely the JC will become PM, but I still wouldn't bet the whole farm on it.

On the Brexit negotiations; like any other negotiations they are preceded by the noise of interested parties marking out their territory. That's what we are seeing at the moment. Boil it all down to the basics though........unencumbered access to each others markets is the best outcome for both parties, and more or less, that's what will happen.
 

Wur12zel

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Punctures usually come 3 at a time, so I am counting on political shocks being the same. 1 Brexit 2 Trump US President
3Corbyn our Next PM.
 

RobFZS

Member
He's polling at like 15% away from the tories, at worst the polls for trump and brexit were 8% out, so i wouldn't waste my time, if his sort of policies were popular, we would have numerous SWP mp's in parliament.
 

Exfarmer

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Bury St Edmunds
He's polling at like 15% away from the tories, at worst the polls for trump and brexit were 8% out, so i wouldn't waste my time, if his sort of policies were popular, we would have numerous SWP mp's in parliament.

Yes but most elections are lost not won, Mrs May seems determined to do just this
 

Exfarmer

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Location
Bury St Edmunds
You wouldnt have gone for brexit/trump/ leicester either though would you?

Certainly would not, however cannot remember last time a put money on anything, except potatoes, onions etc :):):)

I have a personal theory, that Leicester bought the title through betting fixes. The owner is rich enough and South East Asia is famous for such things.I will say no more of this, don't want to be the John Watling of the football world :):):)
 

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