Jobs allied to farming

[egbert]

I dunno about hedgelaying even, they seem to want them to go wild, from what i've read, trees every 6 meters etc.

where's the happy medium?
flailed to within an inch of its life, and stockfenced both sides to do its job.....or left wild?

 

[Robt]

I don't deny that it would be nice to go it alone and be self employed so you get to set your own rates, choose which jobs you want to take on, decide what days to work (aside from all the bad points) etc but I am realistic in the sense that I know I'd have to spend a good amount of time being employed and learning the job. Any questions I ask here are purely so I can know what to expect down the line rather than thinking I can do all this immediately.

All these posts saying work for someone and learn the trade then go on your own… well please factor in paying your employer back all your training! Please

 

[wanton dwarf]

Wanna be a doctor? Yeah, great, welcome to healthcare- the perpetual avalanche of 'customers' many requiring 24/7 care so that means someone somewhere has to work the nights, weekends, holidays, Christmases. Yes, some of the salaries are great. Still want to do it?

No, probably got the wrong attitude to be fair. But tbh I do wonder at times about helping my own family better .. hence learning more in the medical field.

But I guess that is the farmer attitude, if you cannot find the information from someone else then you try and do it yourself.

Good luck as a Doc.

 

[Scholsey]

All these posts saying work for someone and learn the trade then go on your own… well please factor in paying your employer back all your training! Please

Pay based on experience sorts that out, make up for lack of experience with graft in exchange for a fair wage and knowledge, problem is some people think someone who can’t even knock staples in is still worth £15/hour.

 

[kiwi pom]

Any wonder why?

Yeah, I want to be a electro/mechanical engineer. Gets posted to a fudging oil rig or coal mine 1000 kilometres from civilisation or going from site to site up and down the country fixing stuff on contract so you are a nomadic hotel dweller with tools and letters after your name.

Wanna be a doctor? Yeah, great, welcome to healthcare- the perpetual avalanche of 'customers' many requiring 24/7 care so that means someone somewhere has to work the nights, weekends, holidays, Christmases. Yes, some of the salaries are great. Still want to do it?

Very few successful people get qualified and then work a 9-5 job with few actual responsibilities, that's why the good ones end up making lots of money, long term as they are willing to work their way up the ladder in the industry they trained in.
Too many people leave university and think that automatically qualifies them to a cruisy well paid job straight away, when the reality is that's just the starting point.
You have to take a long term view and work hard, most jobs turn out to be harder than an outsider thinks, that's what the moneys for.

 

[kiwi pom]

Late 20s. Have always done lots of exercise and like to stay active which would probably be a good starting point for the physical nature of the job. Would be happy to work for someone else for a while to learn the ropes.

I don't know what you do now but working hard in a physical job is different than just being fit. What sort of hours are you working? Can you get a weekend job on a farm, even if its only something like milking cows, it will get you used to physical, repetitive jobs, to see if you like them. A lot of people say they like the idea of hard graft but 8 hours in, they change their mind
Can you handle a substantial pay cut while you start off a new business?

 

[Ffermer Bach]

Pay based on experience sorts that out, make up for lack of experience with graft in exchange for a fair wage and knowledge, problem is some people think someone who can’t even knock staples in is still worth £15/hour.

The plastering lecturer at college said that all the farmers sons who trained as a plasterer always wanted to know when they start on their own, all they wanted to do was become self employed.

 

[kiwi pom]

The plastering lecturer at college said that all the farmers sons who trained as a plasterer always wanted to know when they start on their own, all they wanted to do was become self employed.

That's the problem, everyone wants to set up by themselves because they can't or wont work for someone, then when they need an employee because they have more work they jump up and down because 'no one wants to work'.

 

[Drystoning]

Just as a follow up question, does anyone have any recommendations for books or resources on drystone walling and guides to livestock farming? I don't mind whether they're on the practicalities of constructing the walls, basics of animal husbandry, finance and business side of things etc.

 

[Drystoning]

Not sure of the etiquette towards bumping your own threads, but if anyone has any suggestions r.e. my previous post that would be very helpful!

 

[Tubbylew]

Not sure of the etiquette towards bumping your own threads, but if anyone has any suggestions r.e. my previous post that would be very helpful!

Your best bet would be quick search on amazon, also ask the dry stone walling association about courses etc.

 

[Princess Pooper]

Just as a follow up question, does anyone have any recommendations for books or resources on drystone walling and guides to livestock farming? I don't mind whether they're on the practicalities of constructing the walls, basics of animal husbandry, finance and business side of things etc.

On the animal husbandry side, although many will roll their eyes, AHDB have some good animal husbandry booklets and web pages (beef/lamb/dairy). NADIS do good health / disease briefings on their website.

 

[CopperBeech]

You can’t beat learning off someone who knows what they are doing. Working out if someone actually knows what they are doing is the hard part!

 

[CopperBeech]

Any wonder why?

Yeah, I want to be a electro/mechanical engineer. Gets posted to a fudging oil rig or coal mine 1000 kilometres from civilisation or going from site to site up and down the country fixing stuff on contract so you are a nomadic hotel dweller with tools and letters after your name.

Wanna be a doctor? Yeah, great, welcome to healthcare- the perpetual avalanche of 'customers' many requiring 24/7 care so that means someone somewhere has to work the nights, weekends, holidays, Christmases. Yes, some of the salaries are great. Still want to do it?

Working for a living is tough. You have to kind of get used to that

 

[SteveHants]

Re: allied industries.
Depends where your talents lie.
I have a student off to do work experience at an accountants that specialises in Ag, I have another who's been given a place to train with RICS if he gets a 2:1, there's ag banking etc etc
If your talents lie within the sciences, I have a vet student who did her thesis on the heritability of entropion off to work for a genetics company.


Me, I wanked off pigs for PIC alongside my sheep farming. Oh, the glamour.