John Bercow

[Jhabc]

The man is a total and utter Buffoon (and that is putting it very, very nicely).

His car sat in the House Of Commons car park for months with a "rubbish to Brexit" sticker attached by him to the windscreen and he has also tried to put every spanner in the works that he can.

Rather than citing conventions dating back to 1604 he needs to think 'i-m-p-a-r-t-i-a-l-i-t-y' (if he is capable of doing so).

If Kim Jong-un was made speaker I am quite sure that he would make fewer f***-ups than Bercow

 

[Yacker]

Bit out of touch mate on that one ,the Mrs Bercow "stickergate" incident was raised in Parliament.

As we have no codified law (look it up) he has to use previous incidents like 1604.

The fact he has told TM not to bring a twice defeated deal back to the house unless there is significant change is the only bit of common ( no pun intended) sense in that chamber for many months.

 

[Bomber_Harris]

Speaker Bercow is getting one of the biggest kickings in history by certain sections of the UK press...

This coverage is a load of bollox imo

How does one 'sabotage' a deal that was dead in the water anyway

He's destroyed May's Brexit not Brexit itself. And all the Brexiteers hated that version anyway

It was actually quite amusing watching the reactions of Brexiteers on social media just after Speaker Bercow dropped his bombshell. At first they were delighted because he had killed May's deal which meant that No-Deal was put 'back on the table'. And then after an hour or two they their delight turned to "oh sh!t, that also means the chances of Revoking Art 50 entirely have also increased and if it goes to a Parliamentary vote it will probably be passed!"

I think the editors of The Sun and The Express have had that same thought process

- Bomber

 

[Hindsight]

This penalty shoot out is such fun. Bercow bears a remarkable resemblance to El Tel!! Is there a Southgate moment coming?

 

[Bomber_Harris]

The man is a total and utter Buffoon (and that is putting it very, very nicely).

His car sat in the House Of Commons car park for months with a "rubbish to Brexit" sticker attached by him to the windscreen and he has also tried to put every spanner in the works that he can.

Rather than citing conventions dating back to 1604 he needs to think 'i-m-p-a-r-t-i-a-l-i-t-y' (if he is capable of doing so).

If Kim Jong-un was made speaker I am quite sure that he would make fewer f***-ups than Bercow

ORDER.......ORDER

My apologies for interrupting the Honourable member but there was a factual error in your opening remarks, which I'm sure was done inadvertently, and I mean that most sincerely, but there was a factual error

the Honourable member said there was a sticker affixed to the windscreen of Speaker Bercow's car. That sticker, on the subject of Brexit, happens to be affixed to, or in the windscreen of, his wife's car...yes... and I'm sure the Honorable member isn't suggesting for one moment that a wife is somehow the property or CHATTEL of her husband

she is entitled to her own views

that sticker is not his and that's the end of it

- Bomber

 

[steveR]

Well from my perspective FWIW, I expressed surprise that the same deal was allowed to be voted on a second time with no substantive difference, let alone a 3rd time! Hell, even as a Parish or Town Councillor will know, you cannot revisit a Proposal that was voted on (within 6 months), unless there is a substantive difference in the Proposal or the evidence for the Proposal!

 

[Johnnyboxer]

At last, someone has had the sense to stop this Brexit fiasco that has/is destroying the UK

It is/has been divisive and corrosive

Since 2016 no real business has been enacted by the Government

The UK has stagnated

Bravo Bercow - all hail the saviour

Let's hope Article 50 is extended and ultimately cancelled - after a second referendum

Brexit has been a folly, for all the world to see

 

[rob1]

At last, someone has had the sense to stop this Brexit fiasco that has/is destroying the UK

It is/has been divisive and corrosive

Since 2016 no real business has been enacted by the Government

The UK has stagnated

Bravo Bercow - all hail the saviour

Let's hope Article 50 is extended and ultimately cancelled - after a second referendum

Brexit has been a folly, for all the world to see

Never mind democracy then.

 

[Johnnyboxer]

Never mind democracy then.

Democracy ?

The 2016 Referendum was merely advisory and not legally binding in fact

It was also binary, with smoke and mirrors fear from one side or the land of milk & honey from the other

Hardly Britain's finest hour, was it ?

Dark & unknown forces were at work for their own agenda, certainly not for the good of the ordinary Man/woman on the street

The public were hoodwinked and if we knew then, what we know today - many would not have embarked on this expensive folly

 

[Farmer1001]

A few points being missed here that Brexiteers may find are in their favour, first Bercow said it can't come back without significant changes, well as it was heading for defeat the 3rd time then this is the best lifeline for it to get though. Otherwise it would be dead. For now the EU can decide if they want to be really nice and allow changes to the WA to keep the UK in, or say no and affectively decide to kick us out - I wouldn't blame them for the latter.

 

[More to life]

My theory, deal was going to fail third vote Bercow was asked to drop his hand grenade on the quiet so May is now in a position to ask for more to move things along.

 

[bobk]

I think he may inadvertantly given brexit some clarity , the EU response in the next few days could define a conclusion

 

[Exfarmer]

Funny how Brexiteers want a third vote on an issue they voted agianst and was cartastrophically last week and a couple of weks before, but remainers MUST NOT have a second vote on something which was marginal 3 years ago!
Hypocrisy , anyone.

 

[rob1]

Democracy ?

The 2016 Referendum was merely advisory and not legally binding in fact

It was also binary, with smoke and mirrors fear from one side or the land of milk & honey from the other

Hardly Britain's finest hour, was it ?

Dark & unknown forces were at work for their own agenda, certainly not for the good of the ordinary Man/woman on the street

The public were hoodwinked and if we knew then, what we know today - many would not have embarked on this expensive folly

Legally it might have been advisory but time and time again DC said the gov would abide by the result, a verbal contract is as good as a written one in law AFAIK. this is like the it wasnt said we would leave the CU and SM bull, it was again and again

 

[rob1]

Funny how Brexiteers want a third vote on an issue they voted agianst and was cartastrophically last week and a couple of weks before, but remainers MUST NOT have a second vote on something which was marginal 3 years ago!
Hypocrisy , anyone.

I dont know many want a third vote, TM's deal is worse than staying in in many peoples eyes

 

[Exfarmer]

I dont know many want a third vote, TM's deal is worse than staying in in many peoples eyes

I think we can both defibitely agree on that one!

 

[Muck Spreader]

Bit out of touch mate on that one ,the Mrs Bercow "stickergate" incident was raised in Parliament.

As we have no codified law (look it up) he has to use previous incidents like 1604.

The fact he has told TM not to bring a twice defeated deal back to the house unless there is significant change is the only bit of common ( no pun intended) sense in that chamber for many months.

A number of MP's had already brought it up as a concern, so he probably had to act. Funny how the Brexiteers get all huffy at a 1604 bill, but had welcomed undemocratic ones dating back to 1539 (Henry VIII clauses), has to say something.

 

[manhill]

I think we can both defibitely agree on that one!

What's defibitely ? Is this a new digital acronym?
Maybe means error free transmission but sounds like it should be adopted if not already.

 

[Still Farming]

EU won't do nothing until 11th hour ?
We leave and keep the money .

 

[rob1]

A number of MP's had already brought it up as a concern, so he probably had to act. Funny how the Brexiteers get all huffy at a 1604 bill, but had welcomed undemocratic ones dating back to 1539 (Henry VIII clauses), has to say something.

I dont welcome anything that isnt right on either side, but I did see the other day berco had allowed an amendment signed by 30 MPs which was pro remain, but refused to have a vote on one signed by 100 leave Mp's,now I dont claim to know the ins and outs of how such decisions are made but on the face of it that sounnds wrong. he has stated on moore than one occassion he is pro remain but as such he has to show complete neutrality, which in many people seyes he isnt doing