John Deere 6105R IVT

Farmer dyke

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Livestock Farmer
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Netherlands
Hey all,

currently looking at a 6105R with ivt transmission and mx loader, it is fairly high spec just no command arm; it does have 3 electric spools, electric loader and front linkage no pto sadly. It has 6700 hours and looks really clean, clutch has been used quite heavily though which is a bit weird to me, with it being an ivt. Was wondering what the experience is with the smaller R ivt's and higher hours/loader work, i figured it being the smallest model it should have an easier life compared to it being in a 6130r?
 

DrDunc

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Livestock Farmer
Location
Dunsyre
Hey all,

currently looking at a 6105R with ivt transmission and mx loader, it is fairly high spec just no command arm; it does have 3 electric spools, electric loader and front linkage no pto sadly. It has 6700 hours and looks really clean, clutch has been used quite heavily though which is a bit weird to me, with it being an ivt. Was wondering what the experience is with the smaller R ivt's and higher hours/loader work, i figured it being the smallest model it should have an easier life compared to it being in a 6130r?
Do Deere still insist on making their IVT creep forward instead of coming to a stop like every single other brand of Vario on the planet?

Might explain the the clutch pedal wear? If so it means it's done an awful lot of loader work though

Pay very close attention to the front axle looking for wear after 6700 hours of heavy loader work, and make sure the gearbox has been serviced to the letter would be my advice
 

hally

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Location
cumbria
Do Deere still insist on making their IVT creep forward instead of coming to a stop like every single other brand of Vario on the planet?

Might explain the the clutch pedal wear? If so it means it's done an awful lot of loader work though

Pay very close attention to the front axle looking for wear after 6700 hours of heavy loader work, and make sure the gearbox has been serviced to the letter would be my advice
Not on the new “pro” vario, operates very similar to Fendt.
 
There would be no need to use the clutch pedal just touch the brakes to disconnect drive, so I would inquire if any damage or premature wear might have occurred if misused.
 

Gerbert

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Location
Dutch biblebelt
A neighbour of mine insist on using the clutchpedal on the headland when mowing, on his 6130r. I don't think the pedal actually makes the clutch do anything so it won't matter anyway. Is there even a clutch in them?
My 6910 autopowr had a fairly used clutchpedal aswell, probably because it had a midmounted mowing/ditching arm.
I think kubota kvt also has the tractor creeping forward when in gear.
 

Farmer dyke

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Livestock Farmer
Location
Netherlands
Do Deere still insist on making their IVT creep forward instead of coming to a stop like every single other brand of Vario on the planet?

Might explain the the clutch pedal wear? If so it means it's done an awful lot of loader work though

Pay very close attention to the front axle looking for wear after 6700 hours of heavy loader work, and make sure the gearbox has been serviced to the letter would be my advice
How would you recommend looking at wear on front axle i believe it always has pressure on it so would be hard to check; however im not that worried about front axle, loader seems rarely used and 6430 with basically same axle hasn't had any problems in 7000 hours loading mixing wagon etc. Clutch wear could be explained that way ye, i believe it creeps forward in 'gear' but brake pedal should act like auto clutch.
 

Deere 6430

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What is the overall condition of the outfit? Think I would’ve more interested in service history etc or type of work/where it had come from.
A picture speaks a thousand words sometimes so people could tell you if they think the tractor looks well cared for which is probably the most important thing with the autopowr transmissions
 

Gerbert

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Location
Dutch biblebelt
The frontaxles are bombproof, especially the tls suspended frontaxle, don't worry about it having a loader. On the non tls the mainpivot can wear out if not greased but you have to be pretty blind to let it get that far.
You can lock up the tls in the screen and jack up the tractor with the fronthitch. Just look for any play.
 

KB6930

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Location
Borders
Some people ie the older generation will use clutch pedal for stopping no matter what they're driving 🤦‍♂️ .

I'd doubt that it'll have done it any harm but as you say just use the brakes to stop
 

daveydiesel1

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Livestock Farmer
Location
Co antrim
The frontaxles are bombproof, especially the tls suspended frontaxle, don't worry about it having a loader. On the non tls the mainpivot can wear out if not greased but you have to be pretty blind to let it get that far.
You can lock up the tls in the screen and jack up the tractor with the fronthitch. Just look for any play.
Its been known for earlier r series 4 pots to wear at the pivot point for steering and then need the axle built up and reground to size. Also heard of 30 series 4pots doin the same both especially if using a loader or heavy front equipment
 

Gerbert

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Location
Dutch biblebelt
Never heard of it or seen it that they are especially troublesome, and there are plenty around here.
But you might aswell check it before buying, just jack up and wiggle the wheel. I suppose there should be some metaldust visible aswell.
 

Chips

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Location
Shropshire
Do Deere still insist on making their IVT creep forward instead of coming to a stop like every single other brand of Vario on the planet?
After driving a massey vario along side a SPFH I certainly hope they still creep, makes things a lot smoother on that job and any thing that needs low speed precision . The John deere vario Stick with two set speeds and roller wheel is simplicity itself , far nicer and safer than the massey joystick, nothing worse than burying settings behind menus and ruining usability .
Although JD are not immune from ruining things with pointless menus , they did that with Auto quad when they moved the change point settings from a dial on the side console to behind menus and multiple button presses on a screen, the result being auto is more hassle than manual , the same for pto speed selection which used to be on hot keys on the 30's but now behind menus after a 30 second boot time on the r series !
 

DrDunc

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Livestock Farmer
Location
Dunsyre
After driving a massey vario along side a SPFH I certainly hope they still creep, makes things a lot smoother on that job and any thing that needs low speed precision . The John deere vario Stick with two set speeds and roller wheel is simplicity itself , far nicer and safer than the massey joystick, nothing worse than burying settings behind menus and ruining usability .
Although JD are not immune from ruining things with pointless menus , they did that with Auto quad when they moved the change point settings from a dial on the side console to behind menus and multiple button presses on a screen, the result being auto is more hassle than manual , the same for pto speed selection which used to be on hot keys on the 30's but now behind menus after a 30 second boot time on the r series !
I really like my valtra N134D armrest, the last of the big "keyboard" side consoles. No cluttered little joystick, just buttons you press and dials you turn. Easy to reach everything without looking, though beautifully backlit if you do

All this flicking through multiple menus does my head in, even on the fancy new touch screens
 

Gerbert

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Location
Dutch biblebelt
A neighbour superglued an m8 nut on the 4wd button of his deere so he could simply reach and tab instead of looking for the button.
Fendt already had the pto gear selection right in 1993, a button for EACH gear, no going through a menu, assinging it to a hot key until you run out.
And when you want to change a worklight you have to scroll through each of them until you find the right one, while case/nh have it done perfectly fine with a overview of the tractor with real buttons next to it.
And don't mention touchscreens, my kuhn rake runs on a isobus cci 800 terminal, have fun hitting the right part of the screen when you have your eyes set on something else, it is just useless without a dedicated €800 joystick with programmable buttons.
I love technology, I hate when it is used for the sake of it.
 

Chips

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Location
Shropshire
I really like my valtra N134D armrest, the last of the big "keyboard" side consoles. No cluttered little joystick, just buttons you press and dials you turn. Easy to reach everything without looking, though beautifully backlit if you do

All this flicking through multiple menus does my head in, even on the fancy new touch screens

This is the thing, without looking , how many people are in wheel chairs or even graves today because of this pointless obsession with touch screens and menu's for important settings that need regular adjustment for no other reason than fashion !
I can't believe in this day and age of health and saftey where they even have to tell you not to drink the contents of a battery that the automotive industry have got away with it .
Fair enough plenty of things benefit from sub menus but not the on the go adjustments
Plus in cars it's starting to look cheap compared to nice to touch control wheels and analogue dials .

A bit like you love your Valtra I love my disco 3 with a button for just about everything, if the phone rings it's easy to ' press 1 to play message ' ( robot farmers know what I mean !) unlike in our other fancy car where the only safe option is to pull over which I doubt many people do
 

Gerbert

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Location
Dutch biblebelt
If you are used to a 6430 I would check the weight of the 6105R. I swapped my 6430 for a 6130R and it’s a bigger heavier tractor. It’s extra power compensates for this but you might find a 6105R a bit lacking compared to your 6430.

6105r is a first gen r series, they are pretty much on par with weight of a comparable 30 series, the second gen r series are much more heavy.
 

Farmer dyke

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Livestock Farmer
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Netherlands
If you are used to a 6430 I would check the weight of the 6105R. I swapped my 6430 for a 6130R and it’s a bigger heavier tractor. It’s extra power compensates for this but you might find a 6105R a bit lacking compared to your 6430.
I'm not used to 6430 but I work at a dairy who has one, so have some knowledge about loader work and front axle. I have a 5085M but looking to upgrade, fitting a loader to this one isn't viable I think
 

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