John Deere 6155r dd or case puma 165cvx

[Orionn4444]

Just remember there is a reason they are 20k cheaper. Poor brakes poor suspension. Old cab

The poor brakes is more to do with how it's operated, there's pumas/t7s out there with thousands of hours on them and are perfectly fine! Suspension is similar big not better than JD in my opinion, I'm always sore after a day in a Deere. And old cab? JD candidate hasn't changed much in the last decade other than more things bolted on and I've yet to see a Deere with a Bluetooth radio as standard!

 

[Pringles]

Our 6330 came with a Bluetooth radio in 2011.

I didn’t ask for it!

I think that different people have wildly different “needs” for their Tractor spec these days.

 

[Orionn4444]

Our 6330 came with a Bluetooth radio in 2011.

I didn’t ask for it!

I think that different people have wildly different “needs” for their Tractor spec these days.

Driven newer Rseries and older 20 and 00 series, yet to find one with a decent radio... probably the same as all cases apparently have crap brakes, yet I've never seen any evidence of this.

 

[james ds]

Just remember there is a reason they are 20k cheaper. Poor brakes poor suspension. Old cab

JD have probably more well known problems too, as far as selling secondhand goes , if you put 10,000 hrs on them there isn't much differance in value then.

 

[james ds]

The poor brakes is more to do with how it's operated, there's pumas/t7s out there with thousands of hours on them and are perfectly fine! Suspension is similar big not better than JD in my opinion, I'm always sore after a day in a Deere. And old cab? JD candidate hasn't changed much in the last decade other than more things bolted on and I've yet to see a Deere with a Bluetooth radio as standard!

The brakes in NH are probably the shortest life brakes on the market no matter how it's operated . I see plenty of t7200 with brakes going at 1000-1500 hrs .

 

[Drillman]

Puma 155 here on 5700hrs. Trumpet housing bolts appear to be untouched so can assume brakes are originals

Also TM155 on 5600hrs brakes untouched and TM135 original brakes replaced (but not totally done) at 8400hrs

 

[whindy]

Well I am sat on 6155r putting on omex .running sprayer on GPS green star. Nice and comfortable place to be . Planit Rock on .can't fault it .( have fitted dab radio)

 

[x121x]

3 older Pumas here two around 6000hrs and one at 4000hrs all semi powershift with the single discs. All trailers are checked 6 weekly and on air, I’ve never had a single issue.

Thank goodness for that DAB @whindy it might drown out your bashing

 

[nick...]

People only get brake problems as they are going to fast and have to stop in a hurry.most likely trailer brakes are poor too.ive never used a tractor with cab suspension and never suffered because of it.one of mine has tls and the other no suspension anywhere.slow down and take your time.cheaper and safer in the long run.
Nick...

 

[Rowland]

3 older Pumas here two around 6000hrs and one at 4000hrs all semi powershift with the single discs. All trailers are checked 6 weekly and on air, I’ve never had a single issue.

Thank goodness for that DAB @whindy it might drown out your bashing

He had an issue with the dealership when he had a case . So his views could be slightly tainted. We only heard his side of the story.
There seamed to be a few problems with the case tractor and dealership .
I got the feeling he bought a case and then didn’t want it .

 

[whindy]

He had an issue with the dealership when he had a case . So his views could be slightly tainted. We only heard his side of the story.
There seamed to be a few problems with the case tractor and dealership .
I got the feeling he bought a case and then didn’t want it .

I did like the engine. The light steering good lock and semi power shift gear box and cab low noise level .and price.

 

[Sitting Pretty]

The JD is not a bad tractor hence loyal following and our local dealer is very good however I found the 6155r numb to drive, felt it was over priced when specced like for like with the Case IH and at the price gap I’d have chosen the Fendt every time over the JD. This is personal preference. The JD engine is not a patch on the FPT Engine and through testing on our own farm at the tank they swallow considerably more fuel on the same job as other brands demos.

Brakes are problems with all brands and those who argue otherwise will never see it through blind loyalty to a brand of choice. A lot has to do with how they are driven and how the machines they tow are serviced or not as is often the case. Some people seem to think that because a trailer has air brakes no maintenance is required one purchased.

My Puma 165 CVX has been faultless thus far on 2400 hours in 2 and a bit years. Paint needs improving but cab is comfy, screen easy to use and customise to your own convenience and I use isobus for spraying with section control and drilling as well. I don’t have a problem with the cab but there could be improvements going forward with a larger windscreen wiper similar to Valtra/Fendt and possibly a slightly larger cab. The radio is basic but does fine and the internal aerial I found to be poor so fitted a good old fashioned aerial which made a huge difference.

Time will tell once price to change comes in how much it has cost to own but going by the back of fag packet figures that I have gone through with my Case IH dealer I don’t think it will be far away from where I budgeted.

 

[Fragonard]

The JD is not a bad tractor hence loyal following and our local dealer is very good however I found the 6155r numb to drive, felt it was over priced when specced like for like with the Case IH and at the price gap I’d have chosen the Fendt every time over the JD. This is personal preference. The JD engine is not a patch on the FPT Engine and through testing on our own farm at the tank they swallow considerably more fuel on the same job as other brands demos.

Brakes are problems with all brands and those who argue otherwise will never see it through blind loyalty to a brand of choice. A lot has to do with how they are driven and how the machines they tow are serviced or not as is often the case. Some people seem to think that because a trailer has air brakes no maintenance is required one purchased.

My Puma 165 CVX has been faultless thus far on 2400 hours in 2 and a bit years. Paint needs improving but cab is comfy, screen easy to use and customise to your own convenience and I use isobus for spraying with section control and drilling as well. I don’t have a problem with the cab but there could be improvements going forward with a larger windscreen wiper similar to Valtra/Fendt and possibly a slightly larger cab. The radio is basic but does fine and the internal aerial I found to be poor so fitted a good old fashioned aerial which made a huge difference.

Time will tell once price to change comes in how much it has cost to own but going by the back of fag packet figures that I have gone through with my Case IH dealer I don’t think it will be far away from where I budgeted.

The top of the case cab is dreadful for fading. Seen a 13 plate case, cab top was a faded pink.

 

[whindy]

Hi, swapping a tractor... maybe, Case puma 165 cvx option1 or jd 6155r DD.
I prefer the jd, I think but it’s a bit dearer

Many thanks in advance

If you prefer the JD you will regret not buying it when parked side by side the jd looks better made imo .
I enjoy driving my 6155dd .

 

[Rowland]

The top of the case cab is dreadful for fading. Seen a 13 plate case, cab top was a faded pink.

20k would be just enough to respray it I’d reckon

 

[Half Pipe]

The top of the case cab is dreadful for fading. Seen a 13 plate case, cab top was a faded pink.

There was a batch that was bad for fading, including our 12 plate puma, case were replacing them for a while and ours was changed and has kept correct colour this time

 

[nick...]

If you leave machines outside the paint will fade,massey are prone to this and jcb telehandler cab roofs
Nick...

 

[holywell farmer]

If you leave machines outside the paint will fade,massey are prone to this and jcb telehandler cab roofs
Nick...

And near the coast sea salt can affect tractor paint work

 

[james ds]

If you leave machines outside the paint will fade,massey are prone to this and jcb telehandler cab roofs
Nick...

Red is the worst colour to fade , I remember every red Toyota car fading badly years ago.

 

[holywell farmer]

The JD is not a bad tractor hence loyal following and our local dealer is very good however I found the 6155r numb to drive, felt it was over priced when specced like for like with the Case IH and at the price gap I’d have chosen the Fendt every time over the JD. This is personal preference. The JD engine is not a patch on the FPT Engine and through testing on our own farm at the tank they swallow considerably more fuel on the same job as other brands demos.

Brakes are problems with all brands and those who argue otherwise will never see it through blind loyalty to a brand of choice. A lot has to do with how they are driven and how the machines they tow are serviced or not as is often the case. Some people seem to think that because a trailer has air brakes no maintenance is required one purchased.

My Puma 165 CVX has been faultless thus far on 2400 hours in 2 and a bit years. Paint needs improving but cab is comfy, screen easy to use and customise to your own convenience and I use isobus for spraying with section control and drilling as well. I don’t have a problem with the cab but there could be improvements going forward with a larger windscreen wiper similar to Valtra/Fendt and possibly a slightly larger cab. The radio is basic but does fine and the internal aerial I found to be poor so fitted a good old fashioned aerial which made a huge difference.

Time will tell once price to change comes in how much it has cost to own but going by the back of fag packet figures that I have gone through with my Case IH dealer I don’t think it will be far away from where I budgeted.

Do vario case tractors come with bar axel, only asking because powershift ones seem to have it,