John Deere Fuel Guarantee 6R

[farmerbill]

I see John Deere have extended their fuel use guarantee to the 6R models.

Basic premise is after the first 12 months of use if you have used more diesel than their benchmark they refund the value of the extra diesel back to you. If you beat their benchmark they pay you back double the value of the fuel you have saved against their benchmark.


Sounds interesting. It seems they’re keen to put right their somewhat poor reputation for fuel use and putting their money where their mouth is.


I think they released this a couple of years ago on the 7R, any experience of how it worked out?

 

[KB6930]

There has to be a catch somewhere!!

I know our 6r drinks more than our previous Deere's do on the same jobs

 

[paul&mandy]

It will get swept under the carpet when they realise they drink so much more than any previous models, when I got mine I was told by the rep it's now better now they gone adblue, no it hasn't, uses lots more fuel and with the added pain of adblue.
Forget scientific measurements, the tanks are pretty similar in size and I can't get a days hard work out the R where as the 30 series would have used considerably less.
Baling it's using about 70ltrs more to do the same bales a day on average, it also lives on a hedger a lot and using 4lts an hr more than it's predecessor and have to fill up with adblue before diesel.

So what are jd guaranteeing exactly?

 

[fermec860]

It will get swept under the carpet when they realise they drink so much more than any previous models, when I got mine I was told by the rep it's now better now they gone adblue, no it hasn't, uses lots more fuel and with the added pain of adblue.
Forget scientific measurements, the tanks are pretty similar in size and I can't get a days hard work out the R where as the 30 series would have used considerably less.
Baling it's using about 70ltrs more to do the same bales a day on average, it also lives on a hedger a lot and using 4lts an hr more than it's predecessor and have to fill up with adblue before diesel.

So what are jd guaranteeing exactly?

How much is it using on average hedgecutting

 

[paul&mandy]

How much is it using on average hedgecutting

11 can be 10 sometimes my old 6930 was 6-7.

 

[farmerbill]

Have you got the latest software? Ours was quite an improvement after it had it. I wonder if it’s this software that’s given JD the confidence to include the 6R?

I remember your thread from last year, and still maintain there’s something not right with your tractor. Have you tried a different 155 on the same job?

 

[paul&mandy]

Have you got the latest software? Ours was quite an improvement after it had it. I wonder if it’s this software that’s given JD the confidence to include the 6R?

I remember your thread from last year, and still maintain there’s something not right with your tractor. Have you tried a different 155 on the same job?

I'm sure it's got the latest software as they have been out to it mainly to sort the radio that never worked properly from New.
I've not tried another 155 but did have a 130 on demo and that used a hell of a lot less fuel on either muck spreading and on the big baler. That was an autoquad, I do see if autopower really uses that much more fuel? My old 6930 was autoquad too.

 

[Jim B]

JD know uptake will be low on this, certain hoops to jump through to get it? It’s just marketing.

A more interesting thing would be to compare fuel use of their tractor with A N Other brand.

 

[stevedave]

It depends where they set the benchmark. Is it an industry average or a JD figure?

 

[Kam]

The target fuel usage set by JD for the rebate is during transport only. Our 6215r is currently at 16.8 l/h for transport, the target I believe is 18 l/h.

 

[farmerbill]

The target fuel usage set by JD for the rebate is during transport only. Our 6215r is currently at 16.8 l/h for transport, the target I believe is 18 l/h.

 

[Kam]

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That's interesting. From that, do I take it that my 9 month old tractor will qualify, or is it only on brand new machines?

 

[farmerbill]

That's interesting. From that, do I take it that my 9 month old tractor will qualify, or is it only on brand new machines?

Registered after 1st Nov by the looks of it

 

[DrDunc]

Deere can't design fuel efficient engines, so the marketing department are called in.

Make no mistake though, the ploy will work. Farmers will see the advert and believe buying a Deere means lower fuel usage costs.

Despite the poor engineering and built in obsolescence, Deere remain the biggest seller in the Western world. Driver comfort and simple controls don't make up for poor reliability and high operating costs forever. That's where the marketing department earn their salaries, and they do it very well.

 

[paul&mandy]

Don't get me wrong I really like the tractor, but since when does burning more fuel make these tractors better for the environment?

 

[manfromhill]

Deere can't design fuel efficient engines, so the marketing department are called in.

Make no mistake though, the ploy will work. Farmers will see the advert and believe buying a Deere means lower fuel usage costs.

Despite the poor engineering and built in obsolescence, Deere remain the biggest seller in the Western world. Driver comfort and simple controls don't make up for poor reliability and high operating costs forever. That's where the marketing department earn their salaries, and they do it very well.

New year same tosh this forum is gradually going downhill with a handful of you guys with your own agendas

 

[Timbo]

TBF the venerable 6068 motor is way overdue to be superseded- the original architecture surely cannot be properly suited to today's power and emissions requirement- but I expect the costs to design, test and build such are stratospheric.

 

[DrDunc]

New year same tosh this forum is gradually going downhill with a handful of you guys with your own agendas

Saying tosh is easy

Providing knowledge or evidence to indicate Deere engines are fuel efficient is a little more tricky.

More difficult still is proving the fuel usage scheme is anything other than a marketing ploy.

So take the easy route and say tosh.

 

[Chae1]

I guess if you'd JD link which records everything, it might be possible to pinpoint fuel usage on road.

They'll always find a excuse to wriggle out of paying anyone though.

 

[Victor]

Don't get me wrong I really like the tractor, but since when does burning more fuel make these tractors better for the environment?

They are green