John Deere reducing dealerships

[Jackov Altraids]

If they sell it as new then maybe illegal under the trade descriptions act, but if they brought a new tractor and then decided to sell it on before they used it is that breaking any laws?

Sorry, I didn't make my point clear.
There is nothing wrong with anyone selling something as nearly new.
The part that I believe is illegal is a manufacturer controlling the sale of its products in a way that contravenes marketing laws.

Can’t see the new sales thing happening , first new tractor in the area , from any brand, will swiftly be spotted and traced back to the original selling franchised dealer. The manufacturer will
swiftly put an end to the supply of new tractors to them if it’s impinging in their established dealer in the area.

I think many of us would believe this to be correct but it is the manufacturer who I believe would be acting illegally.

 

[barleybasher]

If the dealer doesn't have the manufacturer backing and access to full technical support you could be in for a world of pain with these modern machines.

What's more, imagine trying get another dealer to sort it whom you did not buy the machine from, you might come second to their own customers and there won't be much wiggle room on invoices/the grey areas of warranty.

Our local supplying dealer is pretty good in this respect and that's why I try and buy from them (although not at all costs!!)

 

[Martin Holden]

At the end of the day “you” place your purchase with what you think will do the job, cause the least hassle and you can get parts and service back up. I’ll wager that many that run Deere’s will carry on and do so. Some won’t for sure, but the world is changing and getting smaller and as others have said its the same with many industries now.

 

[Robt]

[Moderator note

There will be no public naming of
TFFErs on this or any thread and in contravention of the forum rules

Please desist otherwise warning points will be given

It’s not fair and it’s tedious having to chase down all the quotes of any post to delete them as well

Thank you for your co-operation

Can you post photos of them instead?

 

[JP1]

Can you post photos of them instead?

Are you saying a public figure has a TFF account and the two were linked then?

 

[Robt]

No I’m just saying it’s a little hypocritical of you I’m some of your replies.. my opinion

 

[JP1]

No I’m just saying it’s a little hypocritical of you I’m some of your replies.. my opinion

You're entitled to your opinion but you're wrong. Plain wrong

1. Moderator note was as a result of one TFFer thinking it clever to name someone behind a TFFer handle. It's against the Forum rules and was deleted
2. My ordinary Tffer post showed the photo of the MD of a UK Company that was published in the media by a PR / employer.

No conflict in those two actions whatsoever

 

[Dukes Fit]

What have I missed!?

Somebody used someone else’s real name and it got edited

 

[Chae1]

Willie's got his telephone number on another thread. Not exactly anonymous.

Could easy phone if a problem.

Like the Phillip's chap had to

 

[Treemover]

Years ago a friend of mine who had a small car selling business, told me, to watch the BMW dealer a few hundred meters away. He said, BMW forced him to build a 1million euro glass showroom and he said doing the numbers, it couldn't be paid back (BMW wouldn't pay for it) so the dealer is now bust. Everyone was impressed with the building, but then a few years that dealer folded. Irony is my friend is now a BMW dealer!!

I can see it happening in the agri world for sure. Whether all the brands will do the same, I dont know. All I know is talking to anyone in the retail business ie cars, trucks, tractors, dealing with the manufacturer is becoming increasingly difficult. They dont want to know about warranty claims, dont want to know about problems, they just want to know how much the next order is and payment please. In effect are our local dealers really dealers or just resellers?

Years ago I lived in Canada, and in the little town, there was numerous car dealership, but what I thought was odd, was there was 2 GM dealers competing against each other. I asked local guys about it and they said, welcome to the American business model. The parent company doesn't care about yesterday they just care about tomorrow. How many units do you want. They said 2 competing dealers selling the same product, meant that more units would be sold, and that was good for market share!

I know two dealers who sell tractors and agri kit and say they were making more money years ago as a small outfit with 2-3 employees, selling second tractors and equipment; than they are now, selling big brands, and running depots and numerous staff. Farmers give out about the prices of kit and parts, so what is the answer? The cost of doing business is not getting any easier. My sympathies are with the dealers.

 

[mac]

Case on your doorstep though,,,,

That will no be happening had our fill o them before and after the way caseih representatives spoke and treated us we will never have a case tractor on the place again.
Mac

 

[Zebbedee]

That will no be happening had our fill o them before and after the way caseih representatives spoke and treated us we will never have a case tractor on the place again.
Mac

I posted that in jest only mac but at the moment are JD treating you any better? Time will tell but as another poster has said earlier all the manufacturers have a similar attitude and it’s all to do with sales figures the days of loyalty are disappearing which is a bad thing I’m afraid and geography is not in our favour

 

[mac]

I posted that in jest only mac but at the moment are JD treating you any better? Time will tell but as another poster has said earlier all the manufacturers have a similar attitude and it’s all to do with sales figures the days of loyalty are disappearing which is a bad thing I’m afraid and geography is not in our favour

I know fine well you did . We shall see what the future brings to us at the moment we sitting tight as Hrn will be our dealer until end October and they will look after us up to that point with warranty stuff after That we wait and see John Deere tell me me it’s in hand but that’s all they saying. We have Claas and caseih in one dealership in wick Massey Ferguson about two miles away and fendt in centre off county so we have options there.
mac

 

[JP1]

[Moderator note: any more stupid thinking they are clever posts to name a TFFer on here and you will just have to be on Pre-Mod. Please grow up or just move on]

 

[Willie adie]

Will be interesting to see where Netherton set up base at turra

 

[CPP]

At the end of the day “you” place your purchase with what you think will do the job, cause the least hassle and you can get parts and service back up. I’ll wager that many that run Deere’s will carry on and do so. Some won’t for sure, but the world is changing and getting smaller and as others have said its the same with many industries now.

And many farms are also getting out bigger get out or joining forces

 

[jh.]

Will be interesting to see where Netherton set up base at turra

More interested how this will all play out long term with all brands probably ending up making changes as a result of Deere and HRN parting

 

[2wheels]

Will be interesting to see where Netherton set up base at turra

maybe buy/use hrn's depot? think the family have got the better of jd.

 

[AMP]

maybe buy/use hrn's depot? think the family have got the better of jd.

It seems unlikely hrn would sell them the Turriff depot when JD asking hrn to sell netherton the Perth depot started the whole thing.

 

[Willie adie]

A guy I spoke to today suggested that the old grain shed out the Banff Road was a possibility, but then the same man said that it would be needed for grain this year,
So take your pick