Johnes scheme.

[happycows]

Arla deadline for management plan end of the month.
Flying herd with everything’s too beef.
Any idea what the bare minimum I can get away with?
Really don’t want to waste my money testing but am I forced too?
Thanks

 

[Beef farmer]

30 cow random screen

 

[dairyrow]

Yes. i feel the same way about it only got 5 cows that are positve so far. CIS haven't come before my TB test so won't have another one for a few months if they ever turn up.I don't see why i need to review it and being made to do a herd health plan as well.

 

[happycows]

30 cow random screen

Assholes!!

 

[Beef farmer]

Assholes!!

??

 

[happycows]

Ok who’s cheapest for 30 cow screening please??

 

[Milkcow365]

Ok who’s cheapest for 30 cow screening please??

We can swap milk contract if you like?

 

[Cows 'n grass]

My herd is vaccinated which make screening impossible. I'm argueing that I'm improving management through snatch calving and powder feeding. I've had to get my vet to write a letter though which will probably cost more than a 30 cow screen.

 

[Beef farmer]

Assholes!!

Ive argued till im blue in the face that flying herds are doing the best johnes prevention possible and should be exempt from testing. Falls on deaf ears

 

[happycows]

We can swap milk contract if you like?

Not interested in a swop but mine could well be for sale in the not too distant future.
Itching for someone too test the water on this.

 

[Beef farmer]

Not interested in a swop but mine could well be for sale in the not too distant future.
Itching for someone too test the water on this.

Just let @Thomas-milmain sell his milk through you for a cost of 2ppl. Tell arla you just expanded into........scotland

 

[Headless chicken]

30 cow random screen

madness because it seems to matter not if you have 30 cows or 3000 cows. What clown made that rule up.

 

[bar718]

Arla deadline for management plan end of the month.
Flying herd with everything’s too beef.
Any idea what the bare minimum I can get away with?
Really don’t want to waste my money testing but am I forced too?
Thanks

It is actually red tractor that has brought this in and membership of the national johnes action plan is now mandatory for all participants of the red tractor farm assurance scheme for dairy. So whether you blame Arla or not I think you will find this applies to all dairy farmers.

 

[happycows]

It is actually red tractor that has brought this in and membership of the national johnes action plan is now mandatory for all participants of the red tractor farm assurance scheme for dairy. So whether you blame Arla or not I think you will find this applies to all dairy farmers.

I’m not blaming Arla. Just seems pointless waste of money.

 

[happycows]

£82.50 for 30 cow screening.

 

[Farmer Keith]

I’m not blaming Arla. Just seems pointless waste of money.

But it is not though Johnes is a terrible disease that it’s in all of our interests to get rid of both from an animal health perspective and the damage that would be done to our market if the link with Chrones disease was ever proven/reinforced (I’m not sure how black and white it is?)

If you’re a flying herd and one of your cow suppliers is riddled with Johnes do you really want to be buying from them anyways? Health testing invariably pays for itself pretty easily in the long run IMO.

 

[lazy farmer]

But it is not though Johnes is a terrible disease that it’s in all of our interests to get rid of both from an animal health perspective and the damage that would be done to our market if the link with Chrones disease was ever proven/reinforced (I’m not sure how black and white it is?)

If you’re a flying herd and one of your cow suppliers is riddled with Johnes do you really want to be buying from them anyways? Health testing invariably pays for itself pretty easily in the long run IMO.

Totally agree with this. The lack of either knowledge or appreciation of the potential impact of this disease is extremely scary. Cows can be shedding the disease into the bilk tank whilst still looking well. And quite frankly for an arla supplier to be leading the moan on is quite gauling

 

[Mr Jones]

£82.50 for 30 cow screening.

I have been waiting and still am, for the results of my 30 cow scren. Sampled them on the morning of 12 September, samples sent that same day

A day after nmr/nml has it's IT issues

 

[happycows]

Having only had a single clinical Johnes cow flare up in 12 years, that got marched straight to the Abbatoir before I had her bloods back.
In my opinion happy cows that are not exposed to too much stress and are fed well and in tip top condition are far less likely too succumb to clinical Johnes and most of the Other viruses, ailments and infections that are not too far away from any one of our farms, and I’ll include Tb in that theory.

Only vaccinated 1st time for anything (calf scour) this year.
When I reared heifers I always fed own dams colostrum, took sensible precautions and fed milk replacer.
I’ve had odd cow show up in previous tests that went on to lead long productive lives.
Sourcing heifers from abroad from good well run units, it’s a risk but one I’m willing to take.

If they are really concerned about the link between chrones and Johnes then compulsory test every cow and kill anything as positive rather than messing about doing something that is of such limited significance.

I’ve been to the meetings and seen the effects a massive outbreak can have. I’m not naive but in what significant way is a 30 cow random test and the vet signing a bit if paper going too change anything in a flying herd?

 

[happycows]

I have been waiting and still am, for the results of my 30 cow scren. Sampled them on the morning of 12 September, samples sent that same day

A day after nmr/nml has it's IT issues

I would ring and get them done again.