Just when you thought it couldn’t get any worse in government for farmers ……. Neil Parrish

egbert

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Livestock Farmer
I certainly don't know the ins and outs of this case but it seems you lost an ally.

What is worrying is that MPs are actually permitted to use their cellphones while 'sitting in the house' - in most meeting situations you're asked to turn them off so you can focus on the business being discussed, and use them on your breaks.

Why is it acceptable to use your phone in the house of commons if it's unacceptable in a courtroom situation?
Regardless of what you're doing on it, while using it; shouldn't MPs be present to what is being discussed, if that's what they're elected to do?
Re mobile phone usage in meetings/company....that protocol seems to be changing.
I've only got a clunky 'calls only' gadget, and turn it off.
But both Mrs Egbert and young'uns around us are constantly looking things up on the hoof.
In the case of the young'uns I've no idea whether it's appropriate, but wifie is very adept -for instance- at getting dosage rates/retention periods in seconds.

In parliament, I've no doubt that you'd have office backup sending you info steadily if needed. I see it going on constantly in meetings I attend, where sharper/younger minds are constantly using a gadget to inform them as they go.

As for Neil, I hope to goodness that his tech shows the allegations are unfounded.
 

Kiwi Pete

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Livestock Farmer
Re mobile phone usage in meetings/company....that protocol seems to be changing.
I've only got a clunky 'calls only' gadget, and turn it off.
But both Mrs Egbert and young'uns around us are constantly looking things up on the hoof.
In the case of the young'uns I've no idea whether it's appropriate, but wifie is very adept -for instance- at getting dosage rates/retention periods in seconds.

In parliament, I've no doubt that you'd have office backup sending you info steadily if needed. I see it going on constantly in meetings I attend, where sharper/younger minds are constantly using a gadget to inform them as they go.

As for Neil, I hope to goodness that his tech shows the allegations are unfounded.
Well, yes, so do I.

It still seems a bit "off", to me, after reading this story.... I used to watch parliamentary broadcasting here a long time ago and there were always notes being passed around, just like in a courtroom.

It's a different system here but I'd like to think that 'the place that makes the laws' is subject to the same etiquette and standards as the court of law at the very least - even if parliament has evolved into mainly theatre
 

manhill

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Didn't need to watch it on a screen just swivel his head 180 degrees. Loads of 'lady' MPs like to sit with their skirts riding up. Unaware? I Don't think so!
 

redsloe

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Location
Cornwall
Opinion leaders have certainly had a great deal to work with over the last two years , strange that a cake becomes unimportant when it turns into a labour cake
Nothing to gain from discrediting the opposition party whereas if you force a PM contest or a general election then that's 2 months of news. It's a sure fire way of keeping your job in the media!
 

Scholsey

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Location
Herefordshire
All these MPs calling for someone else to lose their job is like football players around a referee asking for a another player to be sent off, there should be a independent panel who sorts all that out and no other MPs should be allowed to talk to press/media about it or discuss it in parliament.

How many hours of MPs time is spent discussing whether another MP should keep/lose their job?

How does that benefit the country!
 

som farmer

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Livestock Farmer
Location
somerset
the ins and outs will emerge, and the facts, will show whatever it was
But, he fronted up, reported himself, people can't find so much to criticise, imagine if he had lied, and been found out later, newspapers would have had a field day then. Now, its a one day news item for them, its out, been admitted, old news.

just like starmer having a go at boris over drinks/ lockdown, calling for his resignation.
ah, but, turns out he did similar, and 'forgot' some of his senior colleagues were there, so, no different to boris, and by his own comments, calling for boris to step down, he should now step down, but he won't, its 'different'.
 
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caveman

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Location
East Sussex.
For starters.
There's either too many MPs or the chamber isn't fit for purpose. Not enough seats, leading to many having to grab a seat well before the debate they have an interest in comes around.
Wouldn't we be expecting them to be carrying on with their work whilst in the chamber in such circumstances, using the gift of a mobile phone to enable that?
Any viewing of Parliament live will show many politicians, and their aids, scrolling through phones and paperwork to boot.
My money is on a stitch up or a prank at the very least.
 

Bald Rick

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Livestock Farmer
Location
Anglesey
Opinion leaders have certainly had a great deal to work with over the last two years , strange that a cake becomes unimportant when it turns into a labour cake

Not so …



I understand that’s it is commonly known as Pestminster nowadays
 

Scholsey

Member
Location
Herefordshire
All these MPs calling for someone else to lose their job is like football players around a referee asking for a another player to be sent off, there should be a independent panel who sorts all that out and no other MPs should be allowed to talk to press/media about it or discuss it in parliament.

How many hours of MPs time is spent discussing whether another MP should keep/lose their job?

How does that benefit the country!

Imagine if Bin men couldn’t collect any rubbish because they were too busy talking about bin man dave who roundhoused kicked someone’s cat off a wheelie bin or surgeons couldn’t do any operations because Hisham Mohammed had pranged someone’s Kia in the car park with his Merc and tried to hide it, just do your jobs and shut up!
 

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