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Kale and swedes
- Thread starter JD-Kid
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Its aready been mentioned ,
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- Owaka, New Zealand
I have several lives, same as you...Its aready been mentioned , get a life
The thing is, turnips will have dissolved to a mush by the time the OP wants to graze them, so what sounds great on paper probably isn't.
Turnips make a great summer or early winter crop in NZ but for late winter sheep feeding, it's seldom done down south, and for good reason.
Brassica crops need to be in the ground much earlier than in the UK to catch the moisture, obtaining canopy closure by the longest day is ideal, so we're talking 160-200 days from sowing to grazing in the south, possibly including 120+ days with no measurable rainfall where the OP is situated
It's perhaps why the thread is titled "Kale and swedes"
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Must be diffrent veriaties here then as ive grazed them myself well into march ,which is end of winter here ,but woukd depend on how late they are sown, ive grow a lot of swedes in the past ,massive yield but an unforgiving crop if things go wrong ,totaly usless in a long dry spell
But ive no idea of your climate so perhaps hes asking tje wrong peolpe
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So have I, but I don’t farm on the South Island of NZ, and you’re a lot nearer a warm sea than me.
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I would not be growing swedes if he gests quote , dry summers , one of the least dry summer friendly crops i know , but best not go off topic any more ir il get shouted at againSo have I, but I don’t farm on the South Island of NZ, and you’re a lot nearer a warm sea than me.
JD-Kid
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some of the winter turnips might grow bit could be looking 160-200 days in the ground if it was rapes etc then turnips would fit in greater time Frame wise
was just thinking more along the lines of trying to fill in the base a bit but looking like swedes might be a no show
years ago did oats kale and turnips for cows worked very well but was shorter growth time 100-140 days ok the oats were in head but acted like standing hay cows wasted a bit of it but was a good mulch to protect soil while grazing and did not have to feed out hay at same time bit of a win win.
was just thinking more along the lines of trying to fill in the base a bit but looking like swedes might be a no show
years ago did oats kale and turnips for cows worked very well but was shorter growth time 100-140 days ok the oats were in head but acted like standing hay cows wasted a bit of it but was a good mulch to protect soil while grazing and did not have to feed out hay at same time bit of a win win.
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- Owaka, New Zealand
Some of the guys up your way are oversowing fodderbeet with annual rg then terminating it later on
is that the idea?
is that the idea?
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- Owaka, New Zealand
Not really asking the wrong people, just people answering a different question to the question that was asked
hence the comment
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Beets would be better here in drier soils ,areas, but dont handle our frosts as well as SwedesNot really asking the wrong people, just people answering a different question to the question that was asked
hence the comment
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No cabbages ?I’ve oversown my beet with volunteer Spring Barley and Wild Oats this year.
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And most of it is very misleading
Point taken and its generally the same here , the relatively new idea ( triggered by the Dutch dairy boys iirc) of like stubble turnip/ shorter term brassica doesn't ,or isn't properly suitable for long term late winter keep.
Yeas ago it was all kale swede 'main crop turnip' but mainly for energy storage in the long term with good frost resistance..swede around here for sheep ,well and people actually....
The fact remains that kale doesn't go well.with swede.
unless like the op mentions in strips,which actually ir would be worth the hassle , ....with the right system of sowing in practice
.half and half or like 2 drills drilling at the same time or something,whatever.
but fencings always a bit of pain in kale rape tall top stuff anyway, especially if theres abit of lambtounge in it as well.
.using the presccion drill helped a bit from the stumps anyway..
a narrow topper down through several places a few days before (or on a dry day or 2 previously ,with a bit of thought it can cut in all the 'rides' needed for all the fencelines that will be required through grazing ..in that block or field... makes the job much more pleasant.
couldve used falconI’ve oversown my beet with volunteer Spring Barley and Wild Oats this year.
JD-Kid
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seen a kale crop that had breaks cut with a muncher ummm I think 3 meters was a tad wide tho just a wide tire would of be goodbut fencings always a bit of pain in kale rape tall top stuff anyway, especially if theres abit of lambtounge in it as well.
using the presccion drill helped a bit from the stumps anyway..
a narrow topper down through several places a few days before (or on a dry day or 2 previously ,with a bit of thought it can cut in all the 'rides' needed for all the fencelines that will be required through grazing ..in that block or field... makes the job much more pleasant.
JD-Kid
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mate worked for a veg growing out fit and was a common trick to plant a nurse crop then spray it out with good chems
with wind here would help beets get going and have a mulch layer of dead matter
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I never
Did your spring barley not germinate at harvestI’ve oversown my beet with volunteer Spring Barley and Wild Oats this year.
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You always got some snide remark havnt you