Kale and swedes

neilo

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Montgomeryshire
I never

Did your spring barley not germinate at harvest

Spring Barley was a disaster here last year because of the drought. Short, thin crops which then brackled to such a degree that half the heads never made it up the front of the combine.

DD stubble turnips in after, then a sniff of glyphosate before cultivating for beet, but still seed was left to germinate late on, after the beet herbicides had worn off.

It was certainly a vintage year last year.👍
 

neilo

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Montgomeryshire
but fencings always a bit of pain in kale rape tall top stuff anyway, especially if theres abit of lambtounge in it as well.:cautious:.
using the presccion drill helped a bit from the stumps anyway..

a narrow topper down through several places a few days before (or on a dry day or 2 previously ,with a bit of thought it can cut in all the 'rides' needed for all the fencelines that will be required through grazing ..in that block or field... makes the job much more pleasant.

Part off the idea of sowing alternate strip of kale and swedes is so that the swedes act as a ride for putting the fences in.
That part works well. Lifting the fences over the kale strips with several hundred lambs round you, not so much.
 

Derrick Hughes

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Ceredigion
Spring Barley was a disaster here last year because of the drought. Short, thin crops which then brackled to such a degree that half the heads never made it up the front of the combine.

DD stubble turnips in after, then a sniff of glyphosate before cultivating for beet, but still seed was left to germinate late on, after the beet herbicides had worn off.

It was certainly a vintage year last year.👍
I used to get a lot of spring barley in the stubble turnips ,not so bad when we started crimping and it gave me time to knock it out
With kale it was my job push the fence forward twice a day ,lot of work but no wast at all eating under the wire
 

neilo

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Montgomeryshire
I used to get a lot of spring barley in the stubble turnips ,not so bad when we started crimping and it gave me time to knock it out
With kale it was my job push the fence forward twice a day ,lot of work but no wast at all eating under the wire

I’ve strip grazed cattle on kale too (hateful job in a wet winter), but just moving the fence up doesn’t work with sheep.
 

neilo

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Mixed Farmer
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Montgomeryshire
YEah but you Don't want to give wo's even a slightest chance to go to seed the barstewards

That horse bolted with the previous tenant I’m afraid. Seed is already in the ground in sufficient numbers to warrant annual Axial Pro, so a few more is neither here nor there.

One of the beet fields this year was actually long term pp when I arrived, where he used to feed his sheep on home grown ‘corn’. As soon as I cultivated it, which was the first time in anyone’s memory, there were wild oats there. :banghead:
 

Bury the Trash

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Mixed Farmer
Part off the idea of sowing alternate strip of kale and swedes is so that the swedes act as a ride for putting the fences in.
That part works well. Lifting the fences over the kale strips with several hundred lambs round you, not so much.
But the rotational grazers or whatever they're called would love that job or they would use2 fences or somd such clever thing.:sneaky: anyway they love fiddling with them electric fencing jobs :cautious:
 

Bury the Trash

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Mixed Farmer
seen a kale crop that had breaks cut with a muncher ummm I think 3 meters was a tad wide tho just a wide tire would of be good
done it with the flail hedgetrimmer before as hes on the ractor most of the winter.but minces it up and its gone even tho only 4ft wide.
best thing i found so fr is an old almost scrapped farh km22 drum mower with one drum off through being knakered, cutting ith one drum (with a raised disc as well to keep up a bit and away from stone etc) cuts off about 3ft and its still eatable when fresh .use him on an old tractor with narrower tyres tho.
 

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