Keeping the tractor running after nuclear war

Scribus

Member
Location
Central Atlantic

oil barron

Member
Location
Aberdeenshire
Aye, all this nuclear talk from the US is just bluster, they've already sold out to China and/or Russia. The next major superpower clash will take place on the circuit boards of the worlds servers and databases, all America could do is strut up and down firing off whizz bangs in a futile rage, and they know it.

It’s amazing how every major western govrnment in the world now stores their most important data on 6 Microsoft server farms. Take those out and it is back to the caves
 

7610 super q

Never Forgotten
Honorary Member
ECU don’t need constant power. The only critical time is if they are writing to memory and you kill all power (not ignition off) during this process and you happen to corrupt something. But even then you really have to try hard as in themselves vehicle ECUs are quite hardened and difficult to kill.

As you can tell I’m not a OMG throw up your hands and run to the hills, dorothy dinosaur, when it comes to a wee bit of tech.
Don't the 40 series have a keep memory alive battery ?
 
Don't the 40 series have a keep memory alive battery ?
It may do, I was talking in the round. You generally don’t need battery backup because recent events and settings are all written to non-volatile memory (doesn’t need permanent power) on the ECU.

Doesn’t really matter anyhow - it’s all total guff guvnor - as an EMP strike would fry so much other stuff, even stuff like diodes in the regulators on alternators.

I doubt the old fashioned coil based regulators on stuff like the old 35s would survive either, as the pulse could cook them too.
 

Scribus

Member
Location
Central Atlantic
It’s amazing how every major western govrnment in the world now stores their most important data on 6 Microsoft server farms. Take those out and it is back to the caves

On occasions it occurs to me that there may already been some sort of leverage applied by exploiting the vulnerability of the west to the great 'digital revolution', and if one country in particular needs pointing to it is China.

China is a communist totalitarian state, there is only one party and dissent is simply not tolerated. Great wars have been fought within living memory to contain and defeat such political systems, yet short of the wholesale destruction of human life China is pretty much going about its business as Nazi Germany did. Why then, is it so roundly applauded by western governments and commerce?

Not only is it applauded but it is actually encouraged, the great push for electric and autonomous vehicles is the most glaring example of this. China has a vice like grip on the lithium and cobalt markets, one estimate notes that it 'controls' 80% of the former through financial interests in the mining companies as well as direct ownership of the resources.

What western government would entertain the idea of switching to a transport system that is almost totally reliant upon one communist country if it had not already been hopelessly compromised?

Scrape away the gloss and BS surrounding battery cars and you will find a somewhat different picture of geopolitical power and greed that has absolutely nothing to do with saving the planet, why is this being allowed to happen?
 

8100

Member
Location
South Cheshire
That's the damnedest thing about battlefield nuclear weapons, there will be loads of little ground zeroes all over the shop. I once read that the US military were seriously considering nuclear hand grenades until it was pointed out that the major snag there was finding someone daft enough to throw them.
The Americans did come up with Atomic Annie a Nuclear Cannon.I would think this idea soon went out of fashion along with the hand grenade idea....
m-65-atomic-annie-cover.jpg
 

oil barron

Member
Location
Aberdeenshire
On occasions it occurs to me that there may already been some sort of leverage applied by exploiting the vulnerability of the west to the great 'digital revolution', and if one country in particular needs pointing to it is China.

China is a communist totalitarian state, there is only one party and dissent is simply not tolerated. Great wars have been fought within living memory to contain and defeat such political systems, yet short of the wholesale destruction of human life China is pretty much going about its business as Nazi Germany did. Why then, is it so roundly applauded by western governments and commerce?

Not only is it applauded but it is actually encouraged, the great push for electric and autonomous vehicles is the most glaring example of this. China has a vice like grip on the lithium and cobalt markets, one estimate notes that it 'controls' 80% of the former through financial interests in the mining companies as well as direct ownership of the resources.

What western government would entertain the idea of switching to a transport system that is almost totally reliant upon one communist country if it had not already been hopelessly compromised?

Scrape away the gloss and BS surrounding battery cars and you will find a somewhat different picture of geopolitical power and greed that has absolutely nothing to do with saving the planet, why is this being allowed to happen?

Man, you are so on point.
 

Scribus

Member
Location
Central Atlantic
Man, you are so on point.

'Blush'

Yet there are plenty more questions to be addressed. Nearly all smartphones, for instance, are made in China, and no doubt the majority of service personnel and defence contractors have one. Does this mean that much of the US military carry what amounts to a Chinese made tracking device around with them?
 

Petethefarmer

New Member
With everything going on in the world at the moment and the re-introduction of battefield nuclear weapons by the US, it seems fairly likely we are going to see some form of thermo nuclear use within the next 5 years.

What is everyone’s contingency plan to keep ECUs Alive during this? Should we buy spares and keep them in a lead vault? Or have a contingency plan to bypass the ECU.
mine is to have a cow fitted with laser beams to its head, i shall call her 'the laughing cow' , she will also come equipped with a rear disc mower as a tail, imagine when it all calms
down how much ill get for her at auction
 

SFI - What % were you taking out of production?

  • 0 %

    Votes: 79 42.2%
  • Up to 25%

    Votes: 65 34.8%
  • 25-50%

    Votes: 30 16.0%
  • 50-75%

    Votes: 3 1.6%
  • 75-100%

    Votes: 3 1.6%
  • 100% I’ve had enough of farming!

    Votes: 7 3.7%

Red Tractor drops launch of green farming scheme amid anger from farmers

  • 1,289
  • 1
As reported in Independent


quote: “Red Tractor has confirmed it is dropping plans to launch its green farming assurance standard in April“

read the TFF thread here: https://thefarmingforum.co.uk/index.php?threads/gfc-was-to-go-ahead-now-not-going-ahead.405234/
Top