Kelso tup sale, this year????.

I was talking to a tup man today and he said that there is already abit of a chance this year's sale may not happen, obviously it's along time away but sales like this, will thousands of people maybe a problem even in September. There's no way social distancing could happen there, plenty farm visits for inflated prices this autumn.
 

AftonShepherd

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Livestock Farmer
Location
East Ayrshire
Videos or Facebook might even be more common than farm visits in these unique times. No-one yet knows what the state of play will be come September but if its anything like now I wouldn't be comfortable with an endless stream of visitors even if they were prospective buyers.

Personally I will be keeping a few tup lambs to try and avoid purchasing any if at all possible. And, if it works, I might keep doing it.
 

easyram1

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North Shropshire
My own view for what it is worth is that Social distancing will probably mean that the large ram sales like Kelso and Builth wont take place and probably a lot of weekly market sales will also struggle to be compliant when it comes to tup selling. So lots of plans afoot to show what we have for sale including a new Website and hopefully we will be allowed to deliver to indiv farms - or at least the younger generation will
 

neilo

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Mixed Farmer
Location
Montgomeryshire
will be selling from home same as usual , recon my rams are at least £100 cheaper than sale ones anyway , which i can afford to do by not lining compounders pockets.along with sale costs . Nervous times for those ad libbing ram lambs all this summer and no established market .

If folk are going to buy on the back of videos, as has been suggested, maybe we all need to be feeding them more and getting our trimming shears sharpened? You can tell so much about a sheep from a video after all.?
 
Maybe the market will be flooded with forage reared rams :)

On a serious note, if I were reliant on forage reared as a marketing tool, the last thing I'd want to happen would be for a lot of others to join in doing the same.

I've sold bulls off grass for quite a long time, and I prefer to be the odd one out in the bull job, mainly because I'm reliant on others to feed 20kg of flakey blend, but more people are going towards selling out of the field which is diluting what used to be my USP.
 

neilo

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Mixed Farmer
Location
Montgomeryshire
Maybe it is a prompt for the UK to move to on farm sales. Surely picking the ram breeder who is doing what you want first is the critical thing.

The vast majority of terminal sire sheep in the UK are bred in very small flocks. Even if every ram born was a superstar, as some like to think, it would make for some very small on-farm sales.
 

Agrivator

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Livestock Farmer
Location
Scottsih Borders
We managed without Kelso in 2001, so we'll certainly mange without it in 2020.

But it will be back, just as popular in 2021.
Public ram sales are part of the British culture. They are social gatherings and real shop windows for ram breeders to display their wares.
And I think it's fair to say that rams are not as overfed as they used to be, and the breeders of poorer quality sheep have been thinned out through lack of demand and the high cost of selling at such sales.
 

Hilly

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We managed without Kelso in 2001, so we'll certainly mange without it in 2020.

But it will be back, just as popular in 2021.
Public ram sales are part of the British culture. They are social gatherings and real shop windows for ram breeders to display their wares.
And I think it's fair to say that rams are not as overfed as they used to be, and the breeders of poorer quality sheep have been thinned out through lack of demand and the high cost of selling at such sales.
And they now sell them from home
 
Is there a possibility Kelso could be put back a bit if that would mean there would be more chance of it happening? Or is that a silly suggestion? Maybe no slot in the sale calendar to do so
 

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