Kim Darroch

Discussion in 'Brexit & Politics' started by Danllan, Jul 10, 2019 at 12:39 PM.

  1. wanton dwarf

    wanton dwarf Member


    Nothing like ignoring the past 3 years.

    Globalists, Liberals & Socialists have made their own beds .. lie in it.
  2. I agree. For anyone involved in international diplomacy to be making adverse comments on ANY foreign head of state, much less Trump who we know has a very fragile ego and then putting them on paper in anything like explicit terms is an imbecile of the highest order.

    I would have used very very guarded language in any personal or diplomatic communications had it been me.

    If the UK is going to leave the EU and deal with the inevitable diplomatic fallout that results, I am afraid that we should be maximising our relationships with the US, Australia and the like at this time, which means grasping the nettle with Trump. After all, Presidents are only over temporary.
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  3. Danllan

    Danllan Member

    Sir Gar / Carms
    A cynic might suspect that there are some in the establishment who don't wish us a smooth EU exit...
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  4. Of course, the gravy train is coming to an end for many of them. No more MEPs for starters.
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  5. bluegreen

    bluegreen Member

    Darrochs was a remainer who was approaching his retirement, his day has gone and Boris was wise not to nail his colours to the mast. Like him or loathe him Trump is the immediate future and Boris will be a firm supporter, once we get out of Europe and Boris is Prime minister I suspect he will strengthen ties with the US administration PDQ.
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  6. I suspect you are correct and that Britain will gain a great deal from such a situation, being allied to the worlds strongest economy.
    The grand plan for Europe is fraying at the margin, economies faltering, negative interest rates (who knew)

    Shame that Boris thought it advantageous to relinquish his U.S. citizenship, would have come in handy right now.
  7. Exfarmer

    Exfarmer Member

    Bury St Edmunds
    Well it was revealed by Isabell Oakeshott, and I think you will struggle to find a more resolute Brexiteer journalist
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  8. Exfarmer

    Exfarmer Member

    Bury St Edmunds
    Are you suggesting he may want to jump ship very sharply when the voters give us a communist government after the UK ship goes down like Titannic after a no deal Brexit
  9. Exfarmer

    Exfarmer Member

    Bury St Edmunds
    American diplomats did not use diplomatic langauge when talking about President Erdogan , America’ s closest ally and essential partner in the middle East, the repercussions are being felt still.
    There is an English Bradley Walsh but they have been very selective in there releases.
    Is this perhaps connected to a certain persons possible deportation?
  10. Danllan

    Danllan Member

    Sir Gar / Carms
    No, she merely publicised it, the pertinent point will be the identity - and political inclinations - of the person who revealed it. (y)
  11. Exfarmer

    Exfarmer Member

    Bury St Edmunds
    Well it was you who suggested the establishment may not want a smooth
    Brexit, so why would a very strong Brexiteer who has very close connections to those who are backing Farage make all these notes public!
    It is absolutely obvious this man has been stitched up to further the Brexit cause.
  12. Muck Spreader

    Muck Spreader Member

    Another one with links to Arron Banks and the Russians.
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  13. Agrivator

    Agrivator Member

    It is worrying that the politicians and civil servants who are brazenly conspiring to overturn the result of the referendum are not regarded as traitors.
  14. Danllan

    Danllan Member

    Sir Gar / Carms
    I could go along with the argument that I have heard many journalists subscribe too - of all political shades - that they have a duty to publicise what they know for fact and that they believe to be in the public interest. However, I think it will suffice to say that if her action surprises you, you are not acquainted with many journalists.

    It's 'absolutely obvious' to a chameleon, being trampled by a lot of hooves, that a herd of impala is the root cause of all his problems. But... he is not at a level where he can see the cheetah behind the impala...
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  15. Why? It was an advisory vote with a very slim majority and serious questions have been asked both about its validity and about the potential for real damage to be done to the country. An MP’s duty is to serve the country to the best of their ability regardless of the opinion of the plebs or the party. If the MP genuinely believes that preventing Brexit is best for the country then they should vote with their conscience.
    We have parliamentary democracy here, and that should be respected.
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  16. turbo

    turbo Member

    Wrong on so many levels ,parliament handed the decision over to the public in respect to Europe and it doesn’t matter what they think they are there to carry out what the people instructed them to do
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  17. arcobob

    arcobob Member

    As I recall Boris had traveled to the US on a British passport and when he came to leave they would not let him go because immigration told him that he should have traveled under his US passport. So all things being equal the UK immigration should not have let him back in because he was on a US passport.
    I have experience of UK immigration and a bigger load of jerks I never came across. If I was in Boris`s shoes at the time I would have done the same thing.
  18. Exfarmer

    Exfarmer Member

    Bury St Edmunds
    Having been blackmailed by the Daily Mail to the extent we took out an injunction, I am very well aware of the duplicity of journalists
  19. What’s wrong - my opinion or the concept of parliamentary democracy?
    FWIW, your post is definitely wrong - whilst Cameron may have said that government would respect the outcome, Parliament did not “hand the decision over to the public”.
  20. Exfarmer

    Exfarmer Member

    Bury St Edmunds
    Parliament, cannot in law control the activities of the next parliament. The Referendum was advisory and since we have had a general election since, it means nothing.
    It was a reflection of the peoples wishes at the time.
    There is only one answer to the impasse we are in a a new referendum with 2 questions
    First, in or out.
    If out second question
    Deal or no deal.

    Nobody can say they do not know the arguments today. We have seen so many of the lies , told by both sides and should be immune to them.
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