Kinsey System/Albrect system

[Warnesworth]

have you any links to his work?

I'm not sure if any is freely available on the web, but ACRES USA reprinted most of his work in a series of books which are readily available new or secondhand.

 

[SilliamWhale]

Quite correct. If you want to correct acid pH (i.e neutralise the Hydrogen ions on the soil colloid) you need carbonate. The cheapest form being calcitic or dolomitic lime. But if the lime still resembles road grit when spread it isn't going to react and neutralise anything.
But high levels of magnesium, potash or sodium can keep the soil pH high but you have no calcium. Calcium is an essential plant mineral and one which a lot of studies show is essential for the uptake of many other minerals, therefore if you are short of calcium you will be depriving your crop of other essential minerals too.

How much of the Uk cereal and oilseed crops do you consider to be calcium deficient? Apart from sandy acidic soils which cant hold onto much I dont think its significant at all

 

[Warnesworth]

How much of the Uk cereal and oilseed crops do you consider to be calcium deficient? Apart from sandy acidic soils which cant hold onto much I dont think its significant at all

My suspicion is quite a lot (just look at how well we can now grow blackgrass). But I must stress its a suspicion based upon the following which I will admit doesn't follow the strict rules of small plot replicated trials but is close and hasn't been taken to yield. It needs widening to tramline size trials really.

Over the the past three years I have been spreading prilled lime on the same small plots on soils ranging from cotswold brash to moderate clays. All shows significant increases in biomass. The most impressive being the winter beans on one plot this year have been about 3 inches taller since early spring. These beans also had considerably more flowers and consequently pods.

Now you would imagine that cotswold brash has all the calcium it needs but it still seems to show a biomass response.
Now if we accept the YEN theory that biomass contributes to yield....

 

[SilliamWhale]

My suspicion is quite a lot (just look at how well we can now grow blackgrass). But I must stress its a suspicion based upon the following which I will admit doesn't follow the strict rules of small plot replicated trials but is close and hasn't been taken to yield. It needs widening to tramline size trials really.

Over the the past three years I have been spreading prilled lime on the same small plots on soils ranging from cotswold brash to moderate clays. All shows significant increases in biomass. The most impressive being the winter beans on one plot this year have been about 3 inches taller since early spring. These beans also had considerably more flowers and consequently pods.

Now you would imagine that cotswold brash has all the calcium it needs but it still seems to show a biomass response.
Now if we accept the YEN theory that biomass contributes to yield....

But who's to say its the Calcium supplying a response and not the pH spike buffering a local acidity issue? Do leaf and grain tests show a low calcium issue?

 

[Warnesworth]

I don’t think it’s pH because the soil analysis shows good pH, elevated pH on Cotswold brash as you would expect.

 

[York]

in due time there will be the results puclished from the University of Missouri, Prof. T. Reinbott. It should be by end of this year as then the 1st set of 3 years cycle is finished.
More I will not add to this site as my experience in working since 2001 with this program, many clients still working form the beginning, anything I will write is viewed as
biased
sales pitch.
I only can tell you this:
- we have now in Germany >5 systems which put the "Albrecht name" to their results
- people following & retesting will generally increase yields by 20% within 3 to 5 years with lowering the input cost, especialy plant protection drasticaly. I'm talking about farmers which started with 10t/ha wheat & almost 5t/ha OSR.

To understand "failure" there is always a cause and logicalr reason for it. show me you rsoil samples, 3 years & what you applied each year & I will happyly help you to find the logical cause of the so called failure. It is all very basic and drought will no the last resource for explanation.
I just got back yield results which indicate that this year is a fairly normal year. one farms harvest's >4 t/ha OSR, region is happy if they have 2t/ha. One has <150 E/ha for chemicals on his rape, the general neighbourhod has well above 300 €/ha. He has almost 30% OSR and no problems with
-tripse (don't know what is the correct name for it. It#s the fly which eats up just emerged OSF.
- cabbage fly
- pollen beatle.
Of do you think otherwise <150 €/ha for chemicals will be enough from seeding till harvest.
York-Th.