Knocking a pipe under a road

Hesstondriver

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Livestock Farmer
Location
Huntingdon
three options , as above really

1) find someone who has the ability to fire a mole under the road , using the proper gear & big compressor. usually blokes who work for large utility's groundwork / contractors are good people to know as they keep the gear in their vans at weekends and work in exchange for beer or beer tokens
2) for a less professional approach, dig long trench 90 degrees to said road, lay steel pipe in bottom and use pecker on digger to push through. dig trench parallel with road on the other side to find end of pipe. then slide water pipe through
3) for this option you will need three trees worth of paper forms, 27 phone calls to various government departments, and also need to pay for numerous surveys carried out by spotty school kids in hi viz and hard hats, to tell you can now use one of their approved contractors to put a duct in for you. My conscience couldn't be settled if i were to waist a civil servants time with such mundane matter, thus resorting to option 1 or 2
 

Henarar

Member
Livestock Farmer
Location
Somerset
How easy is it to knock a steel pipe under a road for a new water main
Years ago when old steel pipe started leaking wife`s Grandad just pulled a length of 1/2 through
Always had crap water pressure.
Now looking to the future and the possibility of converting some of the old buildings into residential, we know we are going to have to improve water system
Make a nice point from some round bar and weld on a scaffold pole, dig a trench long enough to put it in and push it under the road with digger, dig down the other side and find it then cut the end off and keep it for next time, push the pipe up the scaffold pole, jobs a good un
 

Netherfield

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Location
West Yorkshire
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As long as you haven't got something like this under the road, we had to to get a pecker to make it deep enough for the services.
 

Badshot

Member
Location
Kent
We hired a road compressor and mole, done it ourselves.
Easy enough.
But there definitely were no services in the road or verges.
We owned both sides.
And done it quickly.
It went pretty much where it was aimed, but you can steer them if need be.
Many, many years ago now though.
Some jobsworth would report you now if caught.
 
If you are going to knock a pipe under road would recommend using a track digger to do it and the larger the better.
I needed to put a pipe under a rather wide stone dyke (1.5 m wide) and tried using wheeled digger to push through 4" pipe. The back actor was not fit to push it through so resorted to JS 130, its arm struggled but used the track motors and pushed it through no problem. Old man held pipe level with spirit level for the initial push and came out where laser level said it should the other side which was a bonus. End of pipe had a hole drilled for a shackle to aid pulling back if it stuck.
 
We put an 8 inch steel pipe under 3 roads to pass a slurry main through, 21t excavator made easy work of it, people just thought we were digging drains up
 

Exfarmer

Member
Location
Bury St Edmunds
It will have to of gone fairly wrong to hit a BT cable here, they are 20 ft up in the air and one farm has no mains water past the lane.
If they are 100% sure no services crack on.
quite a few years back a friend was helping a neighbour dig a footing close to the road and pulled out a BT cable the bill came to £37,000.
 
Few years ago we were improving & widening some gateways on the new farm.
Gateway off the road had a high verge.
I said to the lad on the loader, rest your bucket on the road & push through the gate to level that off.
Pushed the verge off no bother
What`s that black thing that the bucket had grazed over ?

2" BT cable
Bit close for comfort
 

Netherfield

Member
Location
West Yorkshire
Brother and his Mrs worked gardening, they got a job looking after ICI/AstraZeneca/Syngenta(Or whatever name) in Cheshire, they got the job because the previous team dug through two fibre optic cables. Because they can't just be joined and had to be replaced some great distance it was a disaster for the firm, cut off all communications, which to a firm like that ran into £millions per day.

Now they spend more time filling forms and drawing plans than they do actual gardening.
 

Exfarmer

Member
Location
Bury St Edmunds
Few years ago we were improving & widening some gateways on the new farm.
Gateway off the road had a high verge.
I said to the lad on the loader, rest your bucket on the road & push through the gate to level that off.
Pushed the verge off no bother
What`s that black thing that the bucket had grazed over ?

2" BT cable
Bit close for comfort
fairly certain that BT are responsible if the cable is not buried 18 inches
 
fairly certain that BT are responsible if the cable is not buried 18 inches
What Bt bury cables 🤣🤣🤣

Lazy fecker engineer, cable tied the cable to the top of my fence when replacing cables here, layed some more on top of a hedge, and even threaded through a length of stock netting on another run. The only reason I didn't chop through the cable with the hedge cutter, it was pi55ing down with rain and didn't fancy half an hour in the wet cutting the cable out of the rotor with the cordless grinder !
 
Another one, had a Bt armoured cable going across a gateway, only ever so slightly buried, anyway the shoe on one of the silage trailers caught the cable, and ripped out a decent length. They replaced it with a bt standard copper cable just on the surface. I come along with the slurry tanker and did the same. Another engineer came out repaired the cable, scraped some mud to one side, put the cable down and put the mud back on top. Cable wasn't buried, just covered.
Come second cut you guessed it, ripped up again.
Anyway they have done a proper job this time, and buried it 2" down. 🤦🏼‍♂️
 
Another one, had a Bt armoured cable going across a gateway, only ever so slightly buried, anyway the shoe on one of the silage trailers caught the cable, and ripped out a decent length. They replaced it with a bt standard copper cable just on the surface. I come along with the slurry tanker and did the same. Another engineer came out repaired the cable, scraped some mud to one side, put the cable down and put the mud back on top. Cable wasn't buried, just covered.
Come second cut you guessed it, ripped up again.
Anyway they have done a proper job this time, and buried it 2" down. 🤦🏼‍♂️
Two inch or two foot ? 😂

Not sure I’d class two foot as deep enough but will be good 99.9% of the time
 

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