Kramer 412E

[Massey Holland]

My neighbour has an old kramer 412 that will only go in reverse ,whether the lever is in forward ,neutral or in reverse position,anyone have any mechanical experience with them.
I have been trying to find a workshop manual for one online but with no luck.
Any help would be greatly appreciated.
TIA.

 

[betternextyear]

kramer transmissisions are very simple.check the forward reverse valve is connected to the f/r lever.

 

[Massey Holland]

kramer transmissisions are very simple.check the forward reverse valve is connected to the f/r lever.

The lever is connected.
I was thinking there might be a problem with the control valve,but i haven't had a chance to look at with him yet.
I have no experience of them,it seems to be a hydrostatic setup,i could be wrong.
Im not one for fiddling about trying to fix things that i don't know about,but as you say ,they are simple.
Not many over this side of the water have any experience with them as they are not that popular over here.

 

[Nearly]

How's this for a start

 

[Nearly]

and then these from my 312 book.

 

[Massey Holland]

Thank you very much nearly,greatly appreciated.It would seem that if all valves are operating correctly ,then it might be a case of warped discs?

 

[Nearly]

Thank you very much nearly,greatly appreciated.It would seem that if all valves are operating correctly ,then it might be a case of warped discs?

I've just got the book, it came with the machine.
All the gear, no idea.

 

[Massey Holland]

It looks a lot more basic transmission than i had imagined.I don't mind opening it now,its just nice to have a basic picture of whats what before you start.

 

[Mursal]

I'd have a wee look at the filter first, then check the pressures (point 23 in @Nearly 's first picture), just to get a feel for things before you start into the clutches.

 

[Selectamatic]

French import...?

 

[Massey Holland]

I'd have a wee look at the filter first, then check the pressures (point 23 in @Nearly 's first picture), just to get a feel for things before you start into the clutches.

Yes that would be the way to go but surely the fact that it goes in reverse only would indicate that it's a valve or pack problem?

 

[Morph]

The clutch packs are either end of a big lump that comes out when you split the cover. The allen headset screws that hold it altogether are lock tightted in and need heating right up to break the locktite or you will shear them off. Older Kramer is excellent gear easily repaired using standard sizes . Kevin Walker is the guy for spares and info/help. search Kramerallrad.co.uk

 

[davedb]

French import...?

quick retreating machine

 

[Massey Holland]

Just a bit of an update on this,I striped the front off the gearbox today,the reverse pack is in trouble,half the studs that hold the end plate on have broken,I would say the discs are in bits,I haven't got the hub out yet to see the full extent of the damage.

 

[logger2477]

I am looking to buy a 312 but it has no reverse any idea on what it would be maybe where I could get parts in the USA ? Any help would be greatly appreciated

 

[Bigblue12v]

Where are you located?

 

[Bob1983]

Having same problem. Got reverse but no forward. Has new clutch pack in and no change. Any advice please.

 

[Massey Holland]

The forward reverse lever operates a control valve underneath the floor on the left hand side,something could be sticking inside that.
The shaft that the packs are on have a few big o rings where the oil is fed in for forward and reverse,they could be split .

 

[PmacG]

and then these from my 312 book.

Would you have the page to tell me which pump is for the steering cheers

 

[Nearly]

Would you have the page to tell me which pump is for the steering cheers

Sold the Kramer along with the book.
@TripleSix